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		<title>By: Mari Cruz Garcia</title>
		<link>http://transitionculture.org/2009/07/29/transport-in-transition-a-guest-piece-by-peter-lipman/comment-page-1/#comment-64440</link>
		<dc:creator>Mari Cruz Garcia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 09:29:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Helen,

Yours is an excellent comment and I couldn&#039;t agree more. I also find a contradiction the message of many aristogreens and political figures (no names) when they go to work by bycicle and have an expensive car at home. Sometimes, the bycicles they have may be as expensive as a the second hand cars that working class people have to use, because there are no regular buses to go to their low paid jobs. 
We can choose between cars and on foot, but many people cannot choose. They have to go long distances to find water, for instance.
There is no freedom when there is no choice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Helen,</p>
<p>Yours is an excellent comment and I couldn&#8217;t agree more. I also find a contradiction the message of many aristogreens and political figures (no names) when they go to work by bycicle and have an expensive car at home. Sometimes, the bycicles they have may be as expensive as a the second hand cars that working class people have to use, because there are no regular buses to go to their low paid jobs.<br />
We can choose between cars and on foot, but many people cannot choose. They have to go long distances to find water, for instance.<br />
There is no freedom when there is no choice.</p>
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		<title>By: Helen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Helen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 22:46:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not sure where this comment should go, but I just had a comment about travel... With COP 15 coming up soon, I know the usual will happen. All those climate campaigners who tell us not to fly anywhere will get on their plane and fly to campaign at the COP 15. Perhaps they could make a greater impact by NOT attending, en masse...and therefore avoiding the flight. Their absence might send a bigger message. Because there&#039;s something that really annoys me, and that is the climate campaigners telling others not to fly, whilst they are jet-setting across the world to launch movies, make speeches, and participate in target-setting conferences that fail to meet their targets. I expect they&#039;d fill a few planes loads each year... The thing for me that really rubs salt into the wound, is that there&#039;s so many people in this world who will never have the opportunity to fly anyway as a result of their poverty (people in the UK included), and then the middle class campaigners tell them they shouldn&#039;t fly, when they can&#039;t even afford it anyway, yet the campaginers can...and they do, and their excuse is because they think they need to be there to make an impact. In this age of amazing technology, where people can be beamed across the world almost as if they are really there - possibly larger than life - why are campaigners still flying? I remember a newspaper article (probably the Guardian) a few years ago, which totalled the distances flown by directors and climate campaigners of environmental organisations. The flights were many and long. And it wasn&#039;t only flights taken for work purposes: they were also flying abroad for their holidays with their families, for example to Europe where there are very excellent rail services. It seems inexcusable. How can they tell others not to do these things when they go ahead and do it themselves and, even worse, when the option to fly isn&#039;t even available to many of those &#039;others&#039;? As they always say, action speaks louder than words. If those climate campaigners who go around the world making doom and gloom speeches were to make their doomsday scenarios by skype or video link, it would likely have a much greater impact. Rob is leading the way - he not only brings a message of hope (instead of doom), but I have also heard that he doesn&#039;t fly. He is setting the very best example possible, and may others swiftly follow. I admit that at times I fly, but then I don&#039;t go around telling everyone else that they shouldn&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure where this comment should go, but I just had a comment about travel&#8230; With COP 15 coming up soon, I know the usual will happen. All those climate campaigners who tell us not to fly anywhere will get on their plane and fly to campaign at the COP 15. Perhaps they could make a greater impact by NOT attending, en masse&#8230;and therefore avoiding the flight. Their absence might send a bigger message. Because there&#8217;s something that really annoys me, and that is the climate campaigners telling others not to fly, whilst they are jet-setting across the world to launch movies, make speeches, and participate in target-setting conferences that fail to meet their targets. I expect they&#8217;d fill a few planes loads each year&#8230; The thing for me that really rubs salt into the wound, is that there&#8217;s so many people in this world who will never have the opportunity to fly anyway as a result of their poverty (people in the UK included), and then the middle class campaigners tell them they shouldn&#8217;t fly, when they can&#8217;t even afford it anyway, yet the campaginers can&#8230;and they do, and their excuse is because they think they need to be there to make an impact. In this age of amazing technology, where people can be beamed across the world almost as if they are really there &#8211; possibly larger than life &#8211; why are campaigners still flying? I remember a newspaper article (probably the Guardian) a few years ago, which totalled the distances flown by directors and climate campaigners of environmental organisations. The flights were many and long. And it wasn&#8217;t only flights taken for work purposes: they were also flying abroad for their holidays with their families, for example to Europe where there are very excellent rail services. It seems inexcusable. How can they tell others not to do these things when they go ahead and do it themselves and, even worse, when the option to fly isn&#8217;t even available to many of those &#8216;others&#8217;? As they always say, action speaks louder than words. If those climate campaigners who go around the world making doom and gloom speeches were to make their doomsday scenarios by skype or video link, it would likely have a much greater impact. Rob is leading the way &#8211; he not only brings a message of hope (instead of doom), but I have also heard that he doesn&#8217;t fly. He is setting the very best example possible, and may others swiftly follow. I admit that at times I fly, but then I don&#8217;t go around telling everyone else that they shouldn&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: Mari Cruz Garcia</title>
		<link>http://transitionculture.org/2009/07/29/transport-in-transition-a-guest-piece-by-peter-lipman/comment-page-1/#comment-64225</link>
		<dc:creator>Mari Cruz Garcia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Aug 2009 17:23:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In addition to cycling, it would very positive if the UK Government could invest on a decent public transport infrastructure, like the one in Germany, France, Italy or Spain, among others European countries. When I lived in Germany, I could go everywhere in the countryside by combining train and bicycle. I try to travel by train here in the UK as much as I can, but it is always like a nightmare: train delays,journeys of 8-10 hours with no catering facilities, or you have to wait for an hour in the middle of nowhere because of an electrical failure. Sometimes, traveling by train for domestic journeys  is twice as expensive as traveling by plane. Did the so called &quot;liberalization&quot; of transport and public utilities in the 80s  bring a better service and choice for UK users?...Interesting question...
Sustran -sustran.org.uk- is doing an excellent work showing the correlation between social exclusion and the lack of a public transport infrastructure, which is forcing many working class families to choose between keeping their cars running or feeding their families healthily.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In addition to cycling, it would very positive if the UK Government could invest on a decent public transport infrastructure, like the one in Germany, France, Italy or Spain, among others European countries. When I lived in Germany, I could go everywhere in the countryside by combining train and bicycle. I try to travel by train here in the UK as much as I can, but it is always like a nightmare: train delays,journeys of 8-10 hours with no catering facilities, or you have to wait for an hour in the middle of nowhere because of an electrical failure. Sometimes, traveling by train for domestic journeys  is twice as expensive as traveling by plane. Did the so called &#8220;liberalization&#8221; of transport and public utilities in the 80s  bring a better service and choice for UK users?&#8230;Interesting question&#8230;<br />
Sustran -sustran.org.uk- is doing an excellent work showing the correlation between social exclusion and the lack of a public transport infrastructure, which is forcing many working class families to choose between keeping their cars running or feeding their families healthily.</p>
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		<title>By: Max Oakes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Max Oakes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Aug 2009 15:57:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is unfortunately too late to reply to this:

http://www.dft.gov.uk/pgr/roadsafety/roadsafetyconsultation/ 

But the govt have recognised that road safety is important and related to sustainability and social inclusion.  

CTC (cyclists touring club- AA/RAC for cyclists) have a safety in numbers campaign. This recognises that more cycling tends to lead to fewer casualties-see Edinburgh/London etc .
The main problem UK cyclists face is that there are so few of them.  Democracy can be bad for minorities.  

The English cycling towns project is a good idea-focusing govt funds on towns like Durham and trying to build up the cycle traffic to a self-sustaining and self-protecting level in one place.

Big business prefers cars too, hence the attitude of much of the corporate media who hype cars and often ignore bikes. Big business tell the govt what to do. Cycles out sell cars in the UK, with 3m bikes imported annually (cars sales about 1.7 million).  Exact figures hard to come by.  

UK car sales are still collapsing (90% of car sales are on credit )and I am hoping for a follow on crunch when second hand cars start to become scarce/expencive/worn-out.  I am hoping this will cut car use and make road cycling conditions easier.

I think encouraging recreational cycling on paths (and center parcs ) is worth supporting cos it allows people to learn to cycle.  Confident riders are much more likely to have a go at commuting on real streets. 

The revolution will not be motorised!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is unfortunately too late to reply to this:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.dft.gov.uk/pgr/roadsafety/roadsafetyconsultation/" rel="nofollow">http://www.dft.gov.uk/pgr/roadsafety/roadsafetyconsultation/</a> </p>
<p>But the govt have recognised that road safety is important and related to sustainability and social inclusion.  </p>
<p>CTC (cyclists touring club- AA/RAC for cyclists) have a safety in numbers campaign. This recognises that more cycling tends to lead to fewer casualties-see Edinburgh/London etc .<br />
The main problem UK cyclists face is that there are so few of them.  Democracy can be bad for minorities.  </p>
<p>The English cycling towns project is a good idea-focusing govt funds on towns like Durham and trying to build up the cycle traffic to a self-sustaining and self-protecting level in one place.</p>
<p>Big business prefers cars too, hence the attitude of much of the corporate media who hype cars and often ignore bikes. Big business tell the govt what to do. Cycles out sell cars in the UK, with 3m bikes imported annually (cars sales about 1.7 million).  Exact figures hard to come by.  </p>
<p>UK car sales are still collapsing (90% of car sales are on credit )and I am hoping for a follow on crunch when second hand cars start to become scarce/expencive/worn-out.  I am hoping this will cut car use and make road cycling conditions easier.</p>
<p>I think encouraging recreational cycling on paths (and center parcs ) is worth supporting cos it allows people to learn to cycle.  Confident riders are much more likely to have a go at commuting on real streets. </p>
<p>The revolution will not be motorised!</p>
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		<title>By: Jennifer Lauruol</title>
		<link>http://transitionculture.org/2009/07/29/transport-in-transition-a-guest-piece-by-peter-lipman/comment-page-1/#comment-64159</link>
		<dc:creator>Jennifer Lauruol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 15:17:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve just returned from a cycle trip from the English Channel to the Mediterranean, approx 1,200 km.  It was lovely, if occasionally challenging.

Back in England, on a local bike trip, a bus driver drove straight across a mini-roundabout to cut me off and overtake me, because he didn&#039;t want to wait until I had cycled 1/4 of the distance (a few metres) and entered the new lane in front of him.

We didn&#039;t experience anything like this anywhere in France, where drivers are also held liable for cyclists&#039; safety.

We do need the legislation, and we need it quickly. We managed in the UK to put a ban on drink-driving; we&#039;ve managed to get used to no smoking inside public places--both &#039;unpopular&#039; pieces of legislation that have been accepted with little complaint. We need the government to make the change in the Highway Code. 

Does anyone know a likely MP would would be willing to table such an Early Day Motion, to &#039;get the ball rolling&#039;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve just returned from a cycle trip from the English Channel to the Mediterranean, approx 1,200 km.  It was lovely, if occasionally challenging.</p>
<p>Back in England, on a local bike trip, a bus driver drove straight across a mini-roundabout to cut me off and overtake me, because he didn&#8217;t want to wait until I had cycled 1/4 of the distance (a few metres) and entered the new lane in front of him.</p>
<p>We didn&#8217;t experience anything like this anywhere in France, where drivers are also held liable for cyclists&#8217; safety.</p>
<p>We do need the legislation, and we need it quickly. We managed in the UK to put a ban on drink-driving; we&#8217;ve managed to get used to no smoking inside public places&#8211;both &#8216;unpopular&#8217; pieces of legislation that have been accepted with little complaint. We need the government to make the change in the Highway Code. </p>
<p>Does anyone know a likely MP would would be willing to table such an Early Day Motion, to &#8216;get the ball rolling&#8217;?</p>
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		<title>By: Mari Cruz Garcia</title>
		<link>http://transitionculture.org/2009/07/29/transport-in-transition-a-guest-piece-by-peter-lipman/comment-page-1/#comment-63845</link>
		<dc:creator>Mari Cruz Garcia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Aug 2009 11:29:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;How, and how far, will we travel if we make the changes we need to in order to thrive in a carbon constrained society?&quot; 

It is estimated that 90% of average weekly travels are due to commuting to work. That is producing most of the Co2 emission. The Scottish Government published an excellent report about this fact and the impact of e-work (telework) on transport. I used the report try to promote a telework policy in my work. In the UK only 18% of the current workers are allowed to telework. Companies are holding cultural conceptions and schemes which are a legacy of the Industrial Revolution.In the Society of Knowledge, work should not be conceived as a &quot;place&quot; or a &quot;timetable&quot;, but an activity or a cognitive process. Yet, for that, we need a cultural change, we need to build a society based on mutual trust, in which managers do not to &quot;watch&quot; their employees, to check if they are working or not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;How, and how far, will we travel if we make the changes we need to in order to thrive in a carbon constrained society?&#8221; </p>
<p>It is estimated that 90% of average weekly travels are due to commuting to work. That is producing most of the Co2 emission. The Scottish Government published an excellent report about this fact and the impact of e-work (telework) on transport. I used the report try to promote a telework policy in my work. In the UK only 18% of the current workers are allowed to telework. Companies are holding cultural conceptions and schemes which are a legacy of the Industrial Revolution.In the Society of Knowledge, work should not be conceived as a &#8220;place&#8221; or a &#8220;timetable&#8221;, but an activity or a cognitive process. Yet, for that, we need a cultural change, we need to build a society based on mutual trust, in which managers do not to &#8220;watch&#8221; their employees, to check if they are working or not.</p>
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		<title>By: Mari Cruz Garcia</title>
		<link>http://transitionculture.org/2009/07/29/transport-in-transition-a-guest-piece-by-peter-lipman/comment-page-1/#comment-63844</link>
		<dc:creator>Mari Cruz Garcia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Aug 2009 11:21:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Mike Grenville</title>
		<link>http://transitionculture.org/2009/07/29/transport-in-transition-a-guest-piece-by-peter-lipman/comment-page-1/#comment-63818</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Grenville</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 11:46:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While the amount of cycling is increasing there are many and varied reasons why the momentum to go by bike is not increasing faster. 

The amount of cycling dosn&#039;t happen by accident - if you compare the amount of cycling in Copenhagen, Amsterdam and Brussels the differences came about though government intervention.

One factor is fear by cyclists of car drivers. Here legislation could make a difference as there are many stories where drivers have not been prosecuted even when a cyclist has been killed. Where the onus is on the vehicle driver to take care of the cyclists such as Netherlands the level of perceived safety increases.

Taking a bike on public transport is possible in the UK but often not easy - (e.g. try changing trains at Clapham Junction; poor space provision on new trains; refusal of buses/coaches to take bikes etc).

If there was a wider choice and availability of good priced bike trailers than there is currently this would also help to make it possible for more journeys by bike.

Once one converts to using a bike rather than car,  one starts to see the places around oneself in a different way. Anything within about 10 miles is possible to travel to casually and increases reliance on making more use of local services.

So it seems to me to increase more journeys by bike requires a mutli pronged approach both by legislators, organisations such as Sustrans and individuals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While the amount of cycling is increasing there are many and varied reasons why the momentum to go by bike is not increasing faster. </p>
<p>The amount of cycling dosn&#8217;t happen by accident &#8211; if you compare the amount of cycling in Copenhagen, Amsterdam and Brussels the differences came about though government intervention.</p>
<p>One factor is fear by cyclists of car drivers. Here legislation could make a difference as there are many stories where drivers have not been prosecuted even when a cyclist has been killed. Where the onus is on the vehicle driver to take care of the cyclists such as Netherlands the level of perceived safety increases.</p>
<p>Taking a bike on public transport is possible in the UK but often not easy &#8211; (e.g. try changing trains at Clapham Junction; poor space provision on new trains; refusal of buses/coaches to take bikes etc).</p>
<p>If there was a wider choice and availability of good priced bike trailers than there is currently this would also help to make it possible for more journeys by bike.</p>
<p>Once one converts to using a bike rather than car,  one starts to see the places around oneself in a different way. Anything within about 10 miles is possible to travel to casually and increases reliance on making more use of local services.</p>
<p>So it seems to me to increase more journeys by bike requires a mutli pronged approach both by legislators, organisations such as Sustrans and individuals.</p>
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