Comments on: Ed Miliband Muses on his Experience as a ‘Keynote Listener’ at the Transition Network conference http://transitionculture.org/2009/07/27/ed-miliband-muses-on-his-experience-as-a-keynote-listener-at-the-transition-network-conference/ An Evolving Exploration into the Head, Heart and Hands of Energy Descent Thu, 24 May 2012 15:12:55 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: gov’t to ministers: don’t mention peak oil « carbon limited http://transitionculture.org/2009/07/27/ed-miliband-muses-on-his-experience-as-a-keynote-listener-at-the-transition-network-conference/comment-page-1/#comment-64136 gov’t to ministers: don’t mention peak oil « carbon limited Tue, 18 Aug 2009 20:54:04 +0000 http://transitionculture.org/?p=2874#comment-64136 [...] omission is similar to Ed Miliband’s reaction to being a “keynote listener” at a Transition Conference in July. Take a minute and [...] [...] omission is similar to Ed Miliband’s reaction to being a “keynote listener” at a Transition Conference in July. Take a minute and [...]

]]> By: Andoni http://transitionculture.org/2009/07/27/ed-miliband-muses-on-his-experience-as-a-keynote-listener-at-the-transition-network-conference/comment-page-1/#comment-63978 Andoni Mon, 10 Aug 2009 12:28:41 +0000 http://transitionculture.org/?p=2874#comment-63978 “Groups like Transition Towns have shifted the centre of gravity in public opinion” I wish !. The TT movement is not known by the public opinion/average citizen . The public opinion is struggling to come to terms with global warming, the real impact it will have during their lifetime ( many believe they will never see it happening in their lives), nevermind peak oil. How many people know that Mr. Miliband attended the Transition Network conference?How many people know there was ever a Transition Network conference? Ignorance is bliss, even more when the truth will take Paradise ( and your car ) away from you!. I am not "rubbishing" the importance of Mr. Miliban's attendance, I don't even doubt the sincerity of his words, but I doubt it has even dented the public opinion insensibility/ignorance on the whole peak oil/global warming chapter we are about to face. We are in the right path, but still far away from the public opinion. P.D. Apologies. I don't want to upset people, but I felt I had to add my personal view on this reality. “Groups like Transition Towns have shifted the centre of gravity in public opinion”
I wish !.
The TT movement is not known by the public opinion/average citizen .
The public opinion is struggling to come to terms with global warming, the real impact it will have during their lifetime ( many believe they will never see it happening in their lives), nevermind peak oil.
How many people know that Mr. Miliband attended the Transition Network conference?How many people know there was ever a Transition Network conference?

Ignorance is bliss, even more when the truth will take Paradise ( and your car ) away from you!.
I am not “rubbishing” the importance of Mr. Miliban’s attendance, I don’t even doubt the sincerity of his words, but I doubt it has even dented the public opinion insensibility/ignorance on the whole peak oil/global warming chapter we are about to face.
We are in the right path, but still far away from the public opinion.

P.D. Apologies. I don’t want to upset people, but I felt I had to add my personal view on this reality.

]]> By: Shane Hughes http://transitionculture.org/2009/07/27/ed-miliband-muses-on-his-experience-as-a-keynote-listener-at-the-transition-network-conference/comment-page-1/#comment-63931 Shane Hughes Sat, 08 Aug 2009 15:42:55 +0000 http://transitionculture.org/?p=2874#comment-63931 When i first read it, i liked the sentence "Groups like Transition Towns have shifted the centre of gravity in public opinion" and just now 10 days later, a specific application of this sentence, has just dawned on me. For decades the centre of gravity in the "alternative" culture was very much "anti" this and that. People voicing positive solution where often sidelined as not taking a serious approach. Now i feel that the centre of gravity has moved and many, not all, of the alternative culture is shifting towards creating actual alternatives. A creative approach, in the sense of creating the world we want rather than protesting against the world we don't. Not long ago, back in 2004, some friends and i, set up a series of events called Visions of Another World; you can see an example of 1 of the events here http://www.letslinkuk.net/news/040911-ramparts.htm The idea was to search out existing examples of projects and solutions that hold within them a glimpse of how a better world would look. However, even with this remit, we found it difficult to fill the events with positive solutions based alternatives, with the majority of people providing content still embedded within a campaign and protest culture. I feel that if we did the same now we do a lot better and i wonder how much TT has contributed to this shift. When i first read it, i liked the sentence “Groups like Transition Towns have shifted the centre of gravity in public opinion” and just now 10 days later, a specific application of this sentence, has just dawned on me.
For decades the centre of gravity in the “alternative” culture was very much “anti” this and that. People voicing positive solution where often sidelined as not taking a serious approach. Now i feel that the centre of gravity has moved and many, not all, of the alternative culture is shifting towards creating actual alternatives. A creative approach, in the sense of creating the world we want rather than protesting against the world we don’t. Not long ago, back in 2004, some friends and i, set up a series of events called Visions of Another World; you can see an example of 1 of the events here http://www.letslinkuk.net/news/040911-ramparts.htm
The idea was to search out existing examples of projects and solutions that hold within them a glimpse of how a better world would look. However, even with this remit, we found it difficult to fill the events with positive solutions based alternatives, with the majority of people providing content still embedded within a campaign and protest culture. I feel that if we did the same now we do a lot better and i wonder how much TT has contributed to this shift.

]]> By: JTM http://transitionculture.org/2009/07/27/ed-miliband-muses-on-his-experience-as-a-keynote-listener-at-the-transition-network-conference/comment-page-1/#comment-63814 JTM Wed, 29 Jul 2009 08:38:39 +0000 http://transitionculture.org/?p=2874#comment-63814 Ivan: No we have... Ivan: No we have…

]]> By: Government peak oil hush up or conspiracy | Becoming Self Sufficient. Towards self sufficiency http://transitionculture.org/2009/07/27/ed-miliband-muses-on-his-experience-as-a-keynote-listener-at-the-transition-network-conference/comment-page-1/#comment-63812 Government peak oil hush up or conspiracy | Becoming Self Sufficient. Towards self sufficiency Tue, 28 Jul 2009 21:39:28 +0000 http://transitionculture.org/?p=2874#comment-63812 [...] http://transitionculture.org/2009/07/27/ed-miliband-muses-on-his-experience-as-a-keynote-listener-at... [...] [...] http://transitionculture.org/2009/07/27/ed-miliband-muses-on-his-experience-as-a-keynote-listener-at... [...]

]]> By: Ivan http://transitionculture.org/2009/07/27/ed-miliband-muses-on-his-experience-as-a-keynote-listener-at-the-transition-network-conference/comment-page-1/#comment-63804 Ivan Tue, 28 Jul 2009 11:00:20 +0000 http://transitionculture.org/?p=2874#comment-63804 "we can show that although people's bills will rise slightly in 2020....." Scary stuff. Has he not been paying bills lately? “we can show that although people’s bills will rise slightly in 2020…..”
Scary stuff.
Has he not been paying bills lately?

]]> By: Shane Hughes http://transitionculture.org/2009/07/27/ed-miliband-muses-on-his-experience-as-a-keynote-listener-at-the-transition-network-conference/comment-page-1/#comment-63800 Shane Hughes Tue, 28 Jul 2009 05:55:20 +0000 http://transitionculture.org/?p=2874#comment-63800 You here about positive feedback loops in climate changing emissions. I see this is kind of like a positive feedback loop in TT growth. TT's have earned their current momentum but this kind of recognition will help to bolster the needed continuation of our growth and credibility within our communities. Shane You here about positive feedback loops in climate changing emissions. I see this is kind of like a positive feedback loop in TT growth. TT’s have earned their current momentum but this kind of recognition will help to bolster the needed continuation of our growth and credibility within our communities.
Shane

]]> By: Ed Milliband on transition towns « MAKE WEALTH HISTORY http://transitionculture.org/2009/07/27/ed-miliband-muses-on-his-experience-as-a-keynote-listener-at-the-transition-network-conference/comment-page-1/#comment-63796 Ed Milliband on transition towns « MAKE WEALTH HISTORY Mon, 27 Jul 2009 16:38:28 +0000 http://transitionculture.org/?p=2874#comment-63796 [...] Read the rest on Rob Hopkins’ blog.   [...] [...] Read the rest on Rob Hopkins’ blog.   [...]

]]> By: Jeremy http://transitionculture.org/2009/07/27/ed-miliband-muses-on-his-experience-as-a-keynote-listener-at-the-transition-network-conference/comment-page-1/#comment-63795 Jeremy Mon, 27 Jul 2009 16:25:28 +0000 http://transitionculture.org/?p=2874#comment-63795 Great to see, and nice to be name-checked in the national plan, but Ed has so far only engaged in half of the transition vision: no mention of peak oil anywhere here! Great to see, and nice to be name-checked in the national plan, but Ed has so far only engaged in half of the transition vision: no mention of peak oil anywhere here!

]]> By: Peter Bralesford http://transitionculture.org/2009/07/27/ed-miliband-muses-on-his-experience-as-a-keynote-listener-at-the-transition-network-conference/comment-page-1/#comment-63794 Peter Bralesford Mon, 27 Jul 2009 16:16:23 +0000 http://transitionculture.org/?p=2874#comment-63794 I must admit, you get a much better response from politicians if you sit down and talk with them constructively, than if you throw green custard in their face. ;) Hopefully this is the first of many occasions when Transition elicits good responses from politicians! I must admit, you get a much better response from politicians if you sit down and talk with them constructively, than if you throw green custard in their face. ;) Hopefully this is the first of many occasions when Transition elicits good responses from politicians!

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