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	<title>Comments on: The Transition Initiative: changing the scale of change, from The Orion magazine</title>
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		<title>By: On peak oil, climate change, thinking global and acting local &#171; Integral Yeshe</title>
		<link>http://transitionculture.org/2009/06/26/the-transition-initiative-changing-the-scale-of-change-from-the-orion-magazine/comment-page-1/#comment-63773</link>
		<dc:creator>On peak oil, climate change, thinking global and acting local &#171; Integral Yeshe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jul 2009 17:02:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Transition Initiative is concerned with the transition to a post-fossil fuel society, based on the necessity of change [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Permaculture Cooperative</title>
		<link>http://transitionculture.org/2009/06/26/the-transition-initiative-changing-the-scale-of-change-from-the-orion-magazine/comment-page-1/#comment-63343</link>
		<dc:creator>Permaculture Cooperative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 19:32:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>we are researching Gaia Permaculture - organic geo-engineering, plant-level permaculture, scaling Transition to the Earth, globalising local solutions

the primary knowledge project is Gaia Permaculture - organic geo engineering, a fusion of Gaia Theory and Permaculture, scaling the Transition Towns movement up to a planetary scale</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>we are researching Gaia Permaculture &#8211; organic geo-engineering, plant-level permaculture, scaling Transition to the Earth, globalising local solutions</p>
<p>the primary knowledge project is Gaia Permaculture &#8211; organic geo engineering, a fusion of Gaia Theory and Permaculture, scaling the Transition Towns movement up to a planetary scale</p>
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		<title>By: Permaculture Cooperative</title>
		<link>http://transitionculture.org/2009/06/26/the-transition-initiative-changing-the-scale-of-change-from-the-orion-magazine/comment-page-1/#comment-63342</link>
		<dc:creator>Permaculture Cooperative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 19:30:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi

we are researching Gaia Permaculture - organic geo-engineering, plant-level permaculture, scaling Transition to the Earth, globalising local solutions

the primary knowledge project is
Gaia Permaculture - organic geo engineering, a fusion of Gaia Theory and Permaculture, scaling the Transition Towns movement up to a planetary scale 

short intro post
http://gaiapermaculture.com/projects/gaiapermaculture 

longer brain dump
http://gaiapermaculture.com/projects/gaiapermaculture/project-home</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi</p>
<p>we are researching Gaia Permaculture &#8211; organic geo-engineering, plant-level permaculture, scaling Transition to the Earth, globalising local solutions</p>
<p>the primary knowledge project is<br />
Gaia Permaculture &#8211; organic geo engineering, a fusion of Gaia Theory and Permaculture, scaling the Transition Towns movement up to a planetary scale </p>
<p>short intro post<br />
<a href="http://gaiapermaculture.com/projects/gaiapermaculture" rel="nofollow">http://gaiapermaculture.com/projects/gaiapermaculture</a> </p>
<p>longer brain dump<br />
<a href="http://gaiapermaculture.com/projects/gaiapermaculture/project-home" rel="nofollow">http://gaiapermaculture.com/projects/gaiapermaculture/project-home</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
		<link>http://transitionculture.org/2009/06/26/the-transition-initiative-changing-the-scale-of-change-from-the-orion-magazine/comment-page-1/#comment-63336</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 08:55:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes pretty good article.

Another nice one:

http://www.metroactive.com/metro/06.24.09/cover-0925.html

... by a writer has been featured here before. &quot;While peak-oil activists foment panic, the &#039;Transition&#039; movement sees a graceful evolution back to the Stone Age.&quot; It overplays the drama within the movements but it&#039;s basically more interesting publicity for transition.

Against that there&#039;s something like this, currently on the BBC website:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/8119428.stm

... &#039;Hell in Earth&#039;, describing its author&#039;s failed allotment from the 70s. &quot;You can&#039;t have an allotment and a life.&quot;

I like Orlov&#039;s little squib here:

http://www.energybulletin.net/node/49363

... showing how alien intervention is our best bet. Assuming galactic oil has not peaked, we can expect this influx of alien oil soon. &quot;Since Earth has few resources to trade for this oil, let us assume that the aliens will be happy to give us their oil in exchange for a truly excellent recipe for brioche à tête which (for reasons we should find intuitively obvious) no-one in the rest of the universe has been able to perfect.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes pretty good article.</p>
<p>Another nice one:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.metroactive.com/metro/06.24.09/cover-0925.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.metroactive.com/metro/06.24.09/cover-0925.html</a></p>
<p>&#8230; by a writer has been featured here before. &#8220;While peak-oil activists foment panic, the &#8216;Transition&#8217; movement sees a graceful evolution back to the Stone Age.&#8221; It overplays the drama within the movements but it&#8217;s basically more interesting publicity for transition.</p>
<p>Against that there&#8217;s something like this, currently on the BBC website:</p>
<p><a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/8119428.stm" rel="nofollow">http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/8119428.stm</a></p>
<p>&#8230; &#8216;Hell in Earth&#8217;, describing its author&#8217;s failed allotment from the 70s. &#8220;You can&#8217;t have an allotment and a life.&#8221;</p>
<p>I like Orlov&#8217;s little squib here:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.energybulletin.net/node/49363" rel="nofollow">http://www.energybulletin.net/node/49363</a></p>
<p>&#8230; showing how alien intervention is our best bet. Assuming galactic oil has not peaked, we can expect this influx of alien oil soon. &#8220;Since Earth has few resources to trade for this oil, let us assume that the aliens will be happy to give us their oil in exchange for a truly excellent recipe for brioche à tête which (for reasons we should find intuitively obvious) no-one in the rest of the universe has been able to perfect.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Graham Burnett</title>
		<link>http://transitionculture.org/2009/06/26/the-transition-initiative-changing-the-scale-of-change-from-the-orion-magazine/comment-page-1/#comment-63335</link>
		<dc:creator>Graham Burnett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 18:30:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jay&#039;s a good writer - I&#039;d recommend her books &#039;Pip Pip -a Sideways Look at Time&#039; and &#039;Wild&#039;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jay&#8217;s a good writer &#8211; I&#8217;d recommend her books &#8216;Pip Pip -a Sideways Look at Time&#8217; and &#8216;Wild&#8217;</p>
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		<title>By: Bart Anderson</title>
		<link>http://transitionculture.org/2009/06/26/the-transition-initiative-changing-the-scale-of-change-from-the-orion-magazine/comment-page-1/#comment-63334</link>
		<dc:creator>Bart Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 18:25:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dynamite article, one of the best I&#039;ve seen on Transition.  It goes into the deeper issues that are usually not addressed by the usual media coverage.

Bart / Energy Bulletin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dynamite article, one of the best I&#8217;ve seen on Transition.  It goes into the deeper issues that are usually not addressed by the usual media coverage.</p>
<p>Bart / Energy Bulletin</p>
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		<title>By: Cos&#8217;è la Transizione? &#171; Io e la Transizione</title>
		<link>http://transitionculture.org/2009/06/26/the-transition-initiative-changing-the-scale-of-change-from-the-orion-magazine/comment-page-1/#comment-63328</link>
		<dc:creator>Cos&#8217;è la Transizione? &#171; Io e la Transizione</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 11:51:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] grande esperimento sociale e davvero lo consiglio (per altro io l&#8217;ho scoperto attraverso il blog di Rob quindi lo consiglia anche [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] grande esperimento sociale e davvero lo consiglio (per altro io l&#8217;ho scoperto attraverso il blog di Rob quindi lo consiglia anche [...]</p>
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		<title>By: ceridwen</title>
		<link>http://transitionculture.org/2009/06/26/the-transition-initiative-changing-the-scale-of-change-from-the-orion-magazine/comment-page-1/#comment-63323</link>
		<dc:creator>ceridwen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 07:10:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would say thats true - a hole in the human psyche the size of a village. Each and every day - as things stand at present - we are reminded that people basically see themselves as individuals/doing what suits them personally best and lying/fighting/whatever they deem necessary to protect their own personal interest. So - we often think &quot;if you cant beat them - join them&quot; - but hope never dies that maybe/just maybe there is another way to live - a way whereby people help because they want to/because it makes them feel good about themselves and not because they&#039;re thinking &quot;whats in it for me?&quot;. Is it possible to change this? I dont know. Is it desirable to change this? Yes - obviously.

A change to a different way of being is both desirable and necessary. I dont know if its possible - most people in Transition are basically nice people - most people in Transition are reasonably unselfish people. One despairs at the exceptions being there even in the Transition Movement. One despairs at the &quot;blind spots&quot; one sees in the best of people. But - hey - we gotta start somewhere and we gotta try.

There is a current ongoing discussion in an Internet community I am involved in about religion - though the Forum is purely &quot;worldly-based&quot; - so its surprising that people wish to discuss this in a way in that particular context, but some clearly do. People are saying where they personally &quot;belong&quot; in this respect and there is complete tolerance being shown for wherever people say they &quot;belong&quot; - which I think is very positive (one or two faiths are very conspicuous by their absence - but those of us participating are being very respectful of each others views on this). The thing that strikes me here is that - even some of those who say they have no religion/dont particularly want to affiliate with any are still commenting how they would like the feeling of some sort of sense of community/some feeling of (what one could call for want of a better word) spirituality/meaning in life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would say thats true &#8211; a hole in the human psyche the size of a village. Each and every day &#8211; as things stand at present &#8211; we are reminded that people basically see themselves as individuals/doing what suits them personally best and lying/fighting/whatever they deem necessary to protect their own personal interest. So &#8211; we often think &#8220;if you cant beat them &#8211; join them&#8221; &#8211; but hope never dies that maybe/just maybe there is another way to live &#8211; a way whereby people help because they want to/because it makes them feel good about themselves and not because they&#8217;re thinking &#8220;whats in it for me?&#8221;. Is it possible to change this? I dont know. Is it desirable to change this? Yes &#8211; obviously.</p>
<p>A change to a different way of being is both desirable and necessary. I dont know if its possible &#8211; most people in Transition are basically nice people &#8211; most people in Transition are reasonably unselfish people. One despairs at the exceptions being there even in the Transition Movement. One despairs at the &#8220;blind spots&#8221; one sees in the best of people. But &#8211; hey &#8211; we gotta start somewhere and we gotta try.</p>
<p>There is a current ongoing discussion in an Internet community I am involved in about religion &#8211; though the Forum is purely &#8220;worldly-based&#8221; &#8211; so its surprising that people wish to discuss this in a way in that particular context, but some clearly do. People are saying where they personally &#8220;belong&#8221; in this respect and there is complete tolerance being shown for wherever people say they &#8220;belong&#8221; &#8211; which I think is very positive (one or two faiths are very conspicuous by their absence &#8211; but those of us participating are being very respectful of each others views on this). The thing that strikes me here is that &#8211; even some of those who say they have no religion/dont particularly want to affiliate with any are still commenting how they would like the feeling of some sort of sense of community/some feeling of (what one could call for want of a better word) spirituality/meaning in life.</p>
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