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	<title>Comments on: A Look at Peak Oil Preparation Plans from Around the World</title>
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		<title>By: Chris Peeters</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Peeters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 08:06:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was interested in the plan of the city of San Buonaventura.
However, when I click on the site (and when I google on the title of the plan) I get the message the page is not available.
Have you by any chance still the pdf-version of the plan?

Many thanks, kindest regards,

Chris Peeters
TT Nijmegen (Holland)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was interested in the plan of the city of San Buonaventura.<br />
However, when I click on the site (and when I google on the title of the plan) I get the message the page is not available.<br />
Have you by any chance still the pdf-version of the plan?</p>
<p>Many thanks, kindest regards,</p>
<p>Chris Peeters<br />
TT Nijmegen (Holland)</p>
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		<title>By: sarah Edwards</title>
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		<dc:creator>sarah Edwards</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 01:11:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So good to see this info on communities that are developing or have developed an EDAP, either grass roots or govt. Sustainable Claremont (CA) has a very comprehensive energy descent plan. It doesn&#039;t address food production or security, but it was developed by citizens, including professionals citizens and has been adopted by the city govt. See hte plan at http://www.ci.claremont.ca.us/ps.quicklinks.cfm?ID=2267 
They then proceeded to engage the entire community in implementing the plan, which is when they consulted Transition US and I was referred to help them launch their group and to speak at their unleashing. In visintig their site you will see they have incorporated Transition concepts in their stucture and are moving ahead impressively. They are currently in the process of deciding on whether to become an offical Transition Initiative.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So good to see this info on communities that are developing or have developed an EDAP, either grass roots or govt. Sustainable Claremont (CA) has a very comprehensive energy descent plan. It doesn&#8217;t address food production or security, but it was developed by citizens, including professionals citizens and has been adopted by the city govt. See hte plan at <a href="http://www.ci.claremont.ca.us/ps.quicklinks.cfm?ID=2267" rel="nofollow">http://www.ci.claremont.ca.us/ps.quicklinks.cfm?ID=2267</a><br />
They then proceeded to engage the entire community in implementing the plan, which is when they consulted Transition US and I was referred to help them launch their group and to speak at their unleashing. In visintig their site you will see they have incorporated Transition concepts in their stucture and are moving ahead impressively. They are currently in the process of deciding on whether to become an offical Transition Initiative.</p>
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		<title>By: Véspera de nada &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Gordon Brown reclama un plan urxente para evitar que o prezo do petróleo rache coa recuperación económica</title>
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		<dc:creator>Véspera de nada &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Gordon Brown reclama un plan urxente para evitar que o prezo do petróleo rache coa recuperación económica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 19:13:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] nos lembraba Hopkins o día 23. Se cadra Hopkins aínda non escoitara as noticias cando publicou ese post: Brown demands emergency [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Manoel</title>
		<link>http://transitionculture.org/2009/06/23/a-look-at-peak-oil-preparation-plans-from-around-the-world/comment-page-1/#comment-63340</link>
		<dc:creator>Manoel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 18:56:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, Rob. You say your government is still denying the proximity of peak-oil but don&#039;t you think these news http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2009/jun/21/brown-emergency-plan-for-oil mean they are changing their minds?

Thanks for this great post. I&#039;ve made a review for http://www.vesperadenada.org (in Galician language).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, Rob. You say your government is still denying the proximity of peak-oil but don&#8217;t you think these news <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2009/jun/21/brown-emergency-plan-for-oil" rel="nofollow">http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2009/jun/21/brown-emergency-plan-for-oil</a> mean they are changing their minds?</p>
<p>Thanks for this great post. I&#8217;ve made a review for <a href="http://www.vesperadenada.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.vesperadenada.org</a> (in Galician language).</p>
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		<title>By: Véspera de nada &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Lugares do mundo que se están a preparar para o teito do petróleo</title>
		<link>http://transitionculture.org/2009/06/23/a-look-at-peak-oil-preparation-plans-from-around-the-world/comment-page-1/#comment-63338</link>
		<dc:creator>Véspera de nada &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Lugares do mundo que se están a preparar para o teito do petróleo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 17:42:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] semana puiden ler un artigo de Rob Hopkins no seu blog Transition Culture no que fai un moi bo repaso aos lugares do mundo que se están a preparar para o impacto do cénit [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] semana puiden ler un artigo de Rob Hopkins no seu blog Transition Culture no que fai un moi bo repaso aos lugares do mundo que se están a preparar para o impacto do cénit [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Marina</title>
		<link>http://transitionculture.org/2009/06/23/a-look-at-peak-oil-preparation-plans-from-around-the-world/comment-page-1/#comment-63330</link>
		<dc:creator>Marina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 15:54:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rob,

The link &#039;the city of Hamilton&#039; points to Berkeley Energy Descent Plan. Would it be possible to correct this? Thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rob,</p>
<p>The link &#8216;the city of Hamilton&#8217; points to Berkeley Energy Descent Plan. Would it be possible to correct this? Thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: Justin - PEDAL Portobello</title>
		<link>http://transitionculture.org/2009/06/23/a-look-at-peak-oil-preparation-plans-from-around-the-world/comment-page-1/#comment-63329</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin - PEDAL Portobello</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 15:51:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rob, Thanks for that. Quick thought: would it be useful to have a research report from up here on the impact of the CCF so that you can use that to help argue your case with Ed Milliband? It&#039;s work I&#039;m just about to embark on alongside a couple of other crucial projects, but will prioritise if tha is useful (justinkenrick AT yahoo.co.uk).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rob, Thanks for that. Quick thought: would it be useful to have a research report from up here on the impact of the CCF so that you can use that to help argue your case with Ed Milliband? It&#8217;s work I&#8217;m just about to embark on alongside a couple of other crucial projects, but will prioritise if tha is useful (justinkenrick AT yahoo.co.uk).</p>
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		<title>By: Graham</title>
		<link>http://transitionculture.org/2009/06/23/a-look-at-peak-oil-preparation-plans-from-around-the-world/comment-page-1/#comment-63326</link>
		<dc:creator>Graham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 09:02:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the Mayo Energy Audit produced by the Sustainability Institute should be included- an excellent analysis of the likely indigenous energy likely to be available to the people of Co. Mayo with different scenarios over the next 20 years. Gives detailed figures for energy demand and supply, both fossil-based and non-fossil. Also covers food, land use etc.. 
http://www.sustainability.ie/energyplan.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the Mayo Energy Audit produced by the Sustainability Institute should be included- an excellent analysis of the likely indigenous energy likely to be available to the people of Co. Mayo with different scenarios over the next 20 years. Gives detailed figures for energy demand and supply, both fossil-based and non-fossil. Also covers food, land use etc..<br />
<a href="http://www.sustainability.ie/energyplan.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.sustainability.ie/energyplan.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Clifford J. Wirth, Ph.D.</title>
		<link>http://transitionculture.org/2009/06/23/a-look-at-peak-oil-preparation-plans-from-around-the-world/comment-page-1/#comment-63322</link>
		<dc:creator>Clifford J. Wirth, Ph.D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 02:53:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The transition groups should plan for a rapid energy descent and economic collapse, meaning no transportation and no food coming in from &quot;the outside&quot; within a few years.

Look at this analysis of oil production: http://www.theoildrum.com/node/5395

Take a look at the actual net oil produced, see Figure 3 here: http://netenergy.theoildrum.com/node/5500

And then consider that the oil exporting nations are significantly reducing exports to us in developed nations. 

These data indicate that we will experience a very fast descent starting now.

For this reason, it is wise to focus on Peak Oil preparations that anticipate a collapse in food and agricultural tools, machines, fertilizer, seed, hardware, wire, medicines, and heating.

http://survivingpeakoil.blogspot.com/2008/07/surviving-in-northeast-usa-after-last.html

Thanks for listening, Clifford J. Wirth, clifford dot wirth at yahoo dot com.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The transition groups should plan for a rapid energy descent and economic collapse, meaning no transportation and no food coming in from &#8220;the outside&#8221; within a few years.</p>
<p>Look at this analysis of oil production: <a href="http://www.theoildrum.com/node/5395" rel="nofollow">http://www.theoildrum.com/node/5395</a></p>
<p>Take a look at the actual net oil produced, see Figure 3 here: <a href="http://netenergy.theoildrum.com/node/5500" rel="nofollow">http://netenergy.theoildrum.com/node/5500</a></p>
<p>And then consider that the oil exporting nations are significantly reducing exports to us in developed nations. </p>
<p>These data indicate that we will experience a very fast descent starting now.</p>
<p>For this reason, it is wise to focus on Peak Oil preparations that anticipate a collapse in food and agricultural tools, machines, fertilizer, seed, hardware, wire, medicines, and heating.</p>
<p><a href="http://survivingpeakoil.blogspot.com/2008/07/surviving-in-northeast-usa-after-last.html" rel="nofollow">http://survivingpeakoil.blogspot.com/2008/07/surviving-in-northeast-usa-after-last.html</a></p>
<p>Thanks for listening, Clifford J. Wirth, clifford dot wirth at yahoo dot com.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
		<link>http://transitionculture.org/2009/06/23/a-look-at-peak-oil-preparation-plans-from-around-the-world/comment-page-1/#comment-63309</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 08:33:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Cliff, thanks for that.. I stand corrected.. it was forwarded on to me as being part of the EDAP.  Do keep us posted... 
Best wishes
Rob</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Cliff, thanks for that.. I stand corrected.. it was forwarded on to me as being part of the EDAP.  Do keep us posted&#8230;<br />
Best wishes<br />
Rob</p>
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		<title>By: Cliff</title>
		<link>http://transitionculture.org/2009/06/23/a-look-at-peak-oil-preparation-plans-from-around-the-world/comment-page-1/#comment-63308</link>
		<dc:creator>Cliff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 08:14:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Rob
You misrepresent the Transition Oxford Plan - the chapter on Transport is in mid-process; the report you link to is one contribution amongst many, by an academic with very little contact with the rest of the initiative.
Sadly this is not made clear enough within the report.
Since it was compiled there have been workshops with local transport enthusiasts and professionals, and an ongoing process of synthesising and and refining all inputs.
Will be posted online in draft form as soon as coherent enough.
Cliff, 
Transition Oxford</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Rob<br />
You misrepresent the Transition Oxford Plan &#8211; the chapter on Transport is in mid-process; the report you link to is one contribution amongst many, by an academic with very little contact with the rest of the initiative.<br />
Sadly this is not made clear enough within the report.<br />
Since it was compiled there have been workshops with local transport enthusiasts and professionals, and an ongoing process of synthesising and and refining all inputs.<br />
Will be posted online in draft form as soon as coherent enough.<br />
Cliff,<br />
Transition Oxford</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
		<link>http://transitionculture.org/2009/06/23/a-look-at-peak-oil-preparation-plans-from-around-the-world/comment-page-1/#comment-63307</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 06:23:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HI Leonard.. I have fixed the Kinsale link.  Justin, thanks for your comments.. good points all.  I didn&#039;t include the PEDAL one because I&#039;ve still not actually seen it!  Thanks for the link, I will check it out.  It does of course hold a significant place in that chronology, it just slipped my mind (if anyone else has done one and I have forgotten to include it, please take Justin&#039;s tack of telling me about it...).  

The Climate Challenge Fund would make such a difference down here... we asked Ed Milliband about it when we saw him at the conference, and he said &#039;come and talk to me&#039; which we will.. it is also part of a list of &#039;Big Asks&#039; we made to the Department of Communities and Local Government.  

Land reform, yes I think there will be elements of it, but not on the scale that you have managed there... thanks!
Rob</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HI Leonard.. I have fixed the Kinsale link.  Justin, thanks for your comments.. good points all.  I didn&#8217;t include the PEDAL one because I&#8217;ve still not actually seen it!  Thanks for the link, I will check it out.  It does of course hold a significant place in that chronology, it just slipped my mind (if anyone else has done one and I have forgotten to include it, please take Justin&#8217;s tack of telling me about it&#8230;).  </p>
<p>The Climate Challenge Fund would make such a difference down here&#8230; we asked Ed Milliband about it when we saw him at the conference, and he said &#8216;come and talk to me&#8217; which we will.. it is also part of a list of &#8216;Big Asks&#8217; we made to the Department of Communities and Local Government.  </p>
<p>Land reform, yes I think there will be elements of it, but not on the scale that you have managed there&#8230; thanks!<br />
Rob</p>
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		<title>By: Justin - PEDAL Portobello</title>
		<link>http://transitionculture.org/2009/06/23/a-look-at-peak-oil-preparation-plans-from-around-the-world/comment-page-1/#comment-63304</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin - PEDAL Portobello</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 04:32:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Transition Group in Portobello, Edinburgh, formed in 2005 as a direct consequence of Eva (Schonveld) being inspired by the work you were doing with the students at Kinsale, Rob, but before the term Transition was being used. For that reason, we called ourselves the Portobello Energy Descent and Land Reform group – PEDAL for short – and have only just got round to changing our name from what everyone thought was a bike campaign, to what sounds like a bike campaign with a location! (PEDAL – Portobello Transition Town). 

We created our EDAP in 2005 (http://pedal-porty.org.uk/energy/energy-group/) so  I’m not quite sure (but would be curious to know) where that fits in to your timeline of the sequence in which EDAPs were created – or even the timeline of when Transition groups were formed (although I know the official sequence is to do with when people asked the Transition Network to formally recognise them, the formal bit being a really useful way of focusing groups minds on whether they are ready to take this path). 

The 2005 PEDAL EDAP seemed to get buried for a while from early 2006 when Eva, the boys and I went to live on the Isle of Eigg for a while; the group became very effectively focused on particular projects and events, and has gone from strength to strength on these. Of the original 12 core members almost all are as fully – or more fully – involved now as they were in 2005, others have joined, and membership and activity has increased dramatically with the new Orchard and other projects. We are in the process of revisiting and recreating the EDAP now so these links are really handy.

Land Reform was as central a part of our approach right from the start as energy descent: community ownership of local resources being seen as crucial for energy descent to be possible. I’d be curious to know whether you and other folk down south see this as important to you too, or whether it is something that only makes sense in the Scottish context (given the hugely successful push for land reform here). Likewise, is effectively interacting with the national political level only possible up here, or is it something that can be done (is being done?) down south. Up here, the £27 million Climate Challenge Funding for community carbon reduction initiatives was secured by the Scottish Green Party by virtue of having a Parliament that has fair voting and so has to respond to the people. I guess, I’m also curious about how you and others down south see community initiatives like Holyrood 350 (www.holyrood350.org) that seek to take a Transition approach (being unashamedly positive about what we can all do, and unashamedly definite about what will happen if we don’t do it!) and seek to apply it at a national level. Enough – should I post this, or just appreciate the thinking your post provoked . . . hmmm. . . I guess if it appears in the posts, then . . .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Transition Group in Portobello, Edinburgh, formed in 2005 as a direct consequence of Eva (Schonveld) being inspired by the work you were doing with the students at Kinsale, Rob, but before the term Transition was being used. For that reason, we called ourselves the Portobello Energy Descent and Land Reform group – PEDAL for short – and have only just got round to changing our name from what everyone thought was a bike campaign, to what sounds like a bike campaign with a location! (PEDAL – Portobello Transition Town). </p>
<p>We created our EDAP in 2005 (<a href="http://pedal-porty.org.uk/energy/energy-group/" rel="nofollow">http://pedal-porty.org.uk/energy/energy-group/</a>) so  I’m not quite sure (but would be curious to know) where that fits in to your timeline of the sequence in which EDAPs were created – or even the timeline of when Transition groups were formed (although I know the official sequence is to do with when people asked the Transition Network to formally recognise them, the formal bit being a really useful way of focusing groups minds on whether they are ready to take this path). </p>
<p>The 2005 PEDAL EDAP seemed to get buried for a while from early 2006 when Eva, the boys and I went to live on the Isle of Eigg for a while; the group became very effectively focused on particular projects and events, and has gone from strength to strength on these. Of the original 12 core members almost all are as fully – or more fully – involved now as they were in 2005, others have joined, and membership and activity has increased dramatically with the new Orchard and other projects. We are in the process of revisiting and recreating the EDAP now so these links are really handy.</p>
<p>Land Reform was as central a part of our approach right from the start as energy descent: community ownership of local resources being seen as crucial for energy descent to be possible. I’d be curious to know whether you and other folk down south see this as important to you too, or whether it is something that only makes sense in the Scottish context (given the hugely successful push for land reform here). Likewise, is effectively interacting with the national political level only possible up here, or is it something that can be done (is being done?) down south. Up here, the £27 million Climate Challenge Funding for community carbon reduction initiatives was secured by the Scottish Green Party by virtue of having a Parliament that has fair voting and so has to respond to the people. I guess, I’m also curious about how you and others down south see community initiatives like Holyrood 350 (www.holyrood350.org) that seek to take a Transition approach (being unashamedly positive about what we can all do, and unashamedly definite about what will happen if we don’t do it!) and seek to apply it at a national level. Enough – should I post this, or just appreciate the thinking your post provoked . . . hmmm. . . I guess if it appears in the posts, then . . .</p>
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		<title>By: Leonard Barrett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leonard Barrett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 03:43:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rob,

The link to the Kinsale plan appears to be broken.  Would love to see it if you&#039;re able to fix that!

All the best,

Leonard</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rob,</p>
<p>The link to the Kinsale plan appears to be broken.  Would love to see it if you&#8217;re able to fix that!</p>
<p>All the best,</p>
<p>Leonard</p>
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		<title>By: Sonya</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sonya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 22:19:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ours addresses climate change - we call for mapping and information of the effects and how it will affect our communities in particular (we are a mainly coastal community) where climate change refugees could move too and how we might feed them.

As for adapting to differing growing climates, we are expereincing that now. Floods, raining when it should be the dry season... changes to pest cycles... we&#039;re learning as we go.

Sonya</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ours addresses climate change &#8211; we call for mapping and information of the effects and how it will affect our communities in particular (we are a mainly coastal community) where climate change refugees could move too and how we might feed them.</p>
<p>As for adapting to differing growing climates, we are expereincing that now. Floods, raining when it should be the dry season&#8230; changes to pest cycles&#8230; we&#8217;re learning as we go.</p>
<p>Sonya</p>
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