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	<title>Comments on: Please Take Your Seats Ladies and Gentlement, the Online Screening of &#8216;In Transition&#8217;Starts Now&#8230;</title>
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		<title>By: News for a Synergic Earth &#187; Blog Archive &#187; IN TRANSITION: A Sneak Movie Preview</title>
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		<dc:creator>News for a Synergic Earth &#187; Blog Archive &#187; IN TRANSITION: A Sneak Movie Preview</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 20:54:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Transitional Culture — Rob Hopkins writes: We live at a fascinating point in history. The convergence of challenges, most particularly global warming and peak oil, have brought us to a point where we are profoundly challenged to act. We are surrounded by what poet Gary Snyder, in his classic poem For the Children called &#8220;The rising hills, the slopes, of statistics&#8221; and by individuals telling us that this means the end, that we have gone too far, that it is inevitable that life as we know it will collapse catastrophically and very soon. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Lance</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 19:37:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The main thing I want to say is Thank You for creating a very well-made and effective film. It conveys important information and lets the viewer &quot;be with&quot; people who are working on -- and experiencing -- the Transition Town enterprise.

There is one thing I would modify: I would have liked it even more if it had touched my feelings more. Naturally, sharing information is essential, but I think emotional impact greatly enhances engagement and motivation. In fact, I consider it indispensable.

The emotional experience that I DID have while viewing the film was often lovely ... the calm clarity and composure of some of the speakers was admirable. It&#039;s heartening to see that such composure can be a part of addressing huge challenges.

But the presentation that got me involved in my local Transition Town had a brightness to it. A very engaging woman gave a talk with a well-crafted PowerPoint presentation. She was warm and cheerful and lively, and she expressed a wonderful confidence in the TT approach, partly because of the proven principles of Permaculture, and partly because of the many wise, sweet, and savvy design features of the TT vision. When I listened to her, I was powerfully engaged and motivated, and soon thereafter, I became a 
founding member of our local Initiating Group.  

Another example of media outreach that I find emotionally strong is this wonderful slideshow-with-music, &quot;Transition Towns New Zealand&quot;:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APMTXrIL48A

I hope these comments are useful, and I thank you again for your important work in support of the Transition Towns movement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The main thing I want to say is Thank You for creating a very well-made and effective film. It conveys important information and lets the viewer &#8220;be with&#8221; people who are working on &#8212; and experiencing &#8212; the Transition Town enterprise.</p>
<p>There is one thing I would modify: I would have liked it even more if it had touched my feelings more. Naturally, sharing information is essential, but I think emotional impact greatly enhances engagement and motivation. In fact, I consider it indispensable.</p>
<p>The emotional experience that I DID have while viewing the film was often lovely &#8230; the calm clarity and composure of some of the speakers was admirable. It&#8217;s heartening to see that such composure can be a part of addressing huge challenges.</p>
<p>But the presentation that got me involved in my local Transition Town had a brightness to it. A very engaging woman gave a talk with a well-crafted PowerPoint presentation. She was warm and cheerful and lively, and she expressed a wonderful confidence in the TT approach, partly because of the proven principles of Permaculture, and partly because of the many wise, sweet, and savvy design features of the TT vision. When I listened to her, I was powerfully engaged and motivated, and soon thereafter, I became a<br />
founding member of our local Initiating Group.  </p>
<p>Another example of media outreach that I find emotionally strong is this wonderful slideshow-with-music, &#8220;Transition Towns New Zealand&#8221;:<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APMTXrIL48A" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APMTXrIL48A</a></p>
<p>I hope these comments are useful, and I thank you again for your important work in support of the Transition Towns movement.</p>
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		<title>By: Rhiannon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rhiannon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 04:56:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi 

We watched the film as part of our transition town invercargill (NZ) meeting and we really liked it.  Looking through the comments it seems like a lot of the ground has been covered by others but here are our comments:

We liked the music-video style presentation of facts at the beginning but thought it just needed to be a little slower.  Also better techno music if possible.  

A little shorter would be good. Maybe 45 minutes?

Diversity - this has been covered by others and perhaps the &#039;white middle class&#039; impression may be unavoidable given the membership of the group &amp; film you had

The &#039;cute kid&#039; alienated some people in our group - but others loved him so it shows you cant please everyone

We liked the people looking back from the future.

Obviously we loved all the NZ coverage but understand if this needs to be cut down!

Overall we thought it was a great job and we look forward to being able to show people the finished version.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi </p>
<p>We watched the film as part of our transition town invercargill (NZ) meeting and we really liked it.  Looking through the comments it seems like a lot of the ground has been covered by others but here are our comments:</p>
<p>We liked the music-video style presentation of facts at the beginning but thought it just needed to be a little slower.  Also better techno music if possible.  </p>
<p>A little shorter would be good. Maybe 45 minutes?</p>
<p>Diversity &#8211; this has been covered by others and perhaps the &#8216;white middle class&#8217; impression may be unavoidable given the membership of the group &amp; film you had</p>
<p>The &#8216;cute kid&#8217; alienated some people in our group &#8211; but others loved him so it shows you cant please everyone</p>
<p>We liked the people looking back from the future.</p>
<p>Obviously we loved all the NZ coverage but understand if this needs to be cut down!</p>
<p>Overall we thought it was a great job and we look forward to being able to show people the finished version.</p>
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		<title>By: Dylan Prins</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dylan Prins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 09:29:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[Oh yeah, i should actually post my comments before i forget them... ]

Firstly, thank you to the film makers and other transition people who put this together and published it for this feedback opportunity. Seems rather rare to have an input and to have more ownership over the forthcoming film, but also an appropriate process for the transition movement.

Also like to acknowledge the other unique aspect which is the &quot;open source&quot; film making experience. From my past dabblings in film making i can appreciate how challenging it must be to work with footage from varying sources. One suggestion i might make if you would like to even out the geographical representation would be to use the old &#039;ken burns effect&#039; stills with audio stories from those areas (assuming they exist, in podcasts perhaps?). 

I screened this film to friends and a family a few times so some of their comments have come through below. All were impressed, a friend of mine was just walking by then he was glued to a seat for the rest of the film. 

Ahh what a nice opening, the young+old characters are a good tool and the intertwining sentences which follow is just beautifully done. 

Some disagreements:
* i think many of the early comments re: cult elements aren&#039;t to be worried about
* i do not believe that &quot;converting the masses&quot; should be a focus of this film - rather to nourish the curious potential transitioner and provide unity to growing transition communities scattered around.  

Some quick agreements: 
* 45 mins a good upper limit
* editor james re:cultish vs suits !!
* paula kovacs comments..
* news scenes too &#039;loose&#039;, can be tightened up in relevance and duration 
* perfect amount of gloom (ie, very little)

a couple other things:
* my folks were able to understand the peak oil section so i think its fine, nice succinct coverage, with that good ole heinberg voice over. future generations of music producers will sample the guy for sure.. 
* apart from the natural UK beginnings, there is perhaps too strong an NZ representation unless you want to show that theres a huge movement there (i dont know if there is or isnt..)
* perhaps just a little too much of the cute kid? his pauses tend to reveal a scripted undertone after hearing him multiple times.. 

Just a few technical things: quicktime ?? please consider a more common player next time, the strange waiting times, temperamental playing and all the QT interlacing was prob not worth it. Something like bliptv or vimeo might be worth looking into.. and wordpress just started a nice video publishing tool. Also my film maker friend suggests changing the scrolling texts to still titles..

Thanks again to all involved for your efforts and engaging the community in this dialogue.

warm regards,

Dylan Prins, Marrickville, Sydney AUS</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[Oh yeah, i should actually post my comments before i forget them... ]</p>
<p>Firstly, thank you to the film makers and other transition people who put this together and published it for this feedback opportunity. Seems rather rare to have an input and to have more ownership over the forthcoming film, but also an appropriate process for the transition movement.</p>
<p>Also like to acknowledge the other unique aspect which is the &#8220;open source&#8221; film making experience. From my past dabblings in film making i can appreciate how challenging it must be to work with footage from varying sources. One suggestion i might make if you would like to even out the geographical representation would be to use the old &#8216;ken burns effect&#8217; stills with audio stories from those areas (assuming they exist, in podcasts perhaps?). </p>
<p>I screened this film to friends and a family a few times so some of their comments have come through below. All were impressed, a friend of mine was just walking by then he was glued to a seat for the rest of the film. </p>
<p>Ahh what a nice opening, the young+old characters are a good tool and the intertwining sentences which follow is just beautifully done. </p>
<p>Some disagreements:<br />
* i think many of the early comments re: cult elements aren&#8217;t to be worried about<br />
* i do not believe that &#8220;converting the masses&#8221; should be a focus of this film &#8211; rather to nourish the curious potential transitioner and provide unity to growing transition communities scattered around.  </p>
<p>Some quick agreements:<br />
* 45 mins a good upper limit<br />
* editor james re:cultish vs suits !!<br />
* paula kovacs comments..<br />
* news scenes too &#8216;loose&#8217;, can be tightened up in relevance and duration<br />
* perfect amount of gloom (ie, very little)</p>
<p>a couple other things:<br />
* my folks were able to understand the peak oil section so i think its fine, nice succinct coverage, with that good ole heinberg voice over. future generations of music producers will sample the guy for sure..<br />
* apart from the natural UK beginnings, there is perhaps too strong an NZ representation unless you want to show that theres a huge movement there (i dont know if there is or isnt..)<br />
* perhaps just a little too much of the cute kid? his pauses tend to reveal a scripted undertone after hearing him multiple times.. </p>
<p>Just a few technical things: quicktime ?? please consider a more common player next time, the strange waiting times, temperamental playing and all the QT interlacing was prob not worth it. Something like bliptv or vimeo might be worth looking into.. and wordpress just started a nice video publishing tool. Also my film maker friend suggests changing the scrolling texts to still titles..</p>
<p>Thanks again to all involved for your efforts and engaging the community in this dialogue.</p>
<p>warm regards,</p>
<p>Dylan Prins, Marrickville, Sydney AUS</p>
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		<title>By: Janaia Donaldson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Janaia Donaldson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 01:41:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some comments on the film itself~
I think it is not clear who the intended audience is. Emma, I think of your two audiences, it is most suitable for those thinking of starting up Transition. If for anyone concerned about responding to the problems, I think a film would go beyond the Transition movement.

The real way to know whether it speaks to your target audience is to run some focus-group-type screenings and get feedback. If for those not-acquainted with Transition but aware of the problems - I think their feedback would be crucial, particularly for Transitioners who want to educate/recruit.

I miss a good concise introduction of what Transition is at the outset, after the problems are laid out. Jennifer Gray did that in our Peak Moment Conversation &quot;The Transition Movement Comes to America&quot; (www.peakmoment.tv/conversations/?p=254), and it is a good base from which to then show all the examples of Transition in action.

The narrative arc is somewhat discontinuous. The film begins midway in the twenty-first century, with the elders looking back and the children remembering. Did I miss a narrative link saying something like, &quot;here&#039;s some of the early projects&quot;? It would seem the backcasting device could&#039;ve been used more fully, since it opens and closes the film. 

Overall, I think it meets your objective, Emma, quite well: it celebrates Transition and documents its early phase. With a spirit and tone that is upbeat and positive, just like Transition aims for.

I hope for more robust examples of education in future. 

For an earlier commenter about nothing taped in North America in the film - we invite you (and all Transition folk) to view Peak Moment Conversations with groups and individuals working on the transition, whether they call it relocalization, sustainability, building local communities, permaculture, Transition, or just doing the right thing. Most of our programs were taped on the west coast US &amp; Canada; we hope to tape elsewhere in the continent in future and welcome contacts and ideas. About 150 episodes up on www.peakmoment.tv.

For the commenters concerned about class, race, gender: most of our guests too are white middle class (which I plan to expand from), but sociology professor Rowan Wolfe does a good job of raising issues for the broader society (&quot;Social Effects of Peak Oil&quot;, episode 69). 

Janaia Donaldson (host/producer)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some comments on the film itself~<br />
I think it is not clear who the intended audience is. Emma, I think of your two audiences, it is most suitable for those thinking of starting up Transition. If for anyone concerned about responding to the problems, I think a film would go beyond the Transition movement.</p>
<p>The real way to know whether it speaks to your target audience is to run some focus-group-type screenings and get feedback. If for those not-acquainted with Transition but aware of the problems &#8211; I think their feedback would be crucial, particularly for Transitioners who want to educate/recruit.</p>
<p>I miss a good concise introduction of what Transition is at the outset, after the problems are laid out. Jennifer Gray did that in our Peak Moment Conversation &#8220;The Transition Movement Comes to America&#8221; (www.peakmoment.tv/conversations/?p=254), and it is a good base from which to then show all the examples of Transition in action.</p>
<p>The narrative arc is somewhat discontinuous. The film begins midway in the twenty-first century, with the elders looking back and the children remembering. Did I miss a narrative link saying something like, &#8220;here&#8217;s some of the early projects&#8221;? It would seem the backcasting device could&#8217;ve been used more fully, since it opens and closes the film. </p>
<p>Overall, I think it meets your objective, Emma, quite well: it celebrates Transition and documents its early phase. With a spirit and tone that is upbeat and positive, just like Transition aims for.</p>
<p>I hope for more robust examples of education in future. </p>
<p>For an earlier commenter about nothing taped in North America in the film &#8211; we invite you (and all Transition folk) to view Peak Moment Conversations with groups and individuals working on the transition, whether they call it relocalization, sustainability, building local communities, permaculture, Transition, or just doing the right thing. Most of our programs were taped on the west coast US &amp; Canada; we hope to tape elsewhere in the continent in future and welcome contacts and ideas. About 150 episodes up on <a href="http://www.peakmoment.tv" rel="nofollow">http://www.peakmoment.tv</a>.</p>
<p>For the commenters concerned about class, race, gender: most of our guests too are white middle class (which I plan to expand from), but sociology professor Rowan Wolfe does a good job of raising issues for the broader society (&#8220;Social Effects of Peak Oil&#8221;, episode 69). </p>
<p>Janaia Donaldson (host/producer)</p>
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		<title>By: another james (the editor)</title>
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		<dc:creator>another james (the editor)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 15:54:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a fascinating thread, starting with Dave&#039;s &#039;it&#039;s put me right off&#039; and ending up with a debate about demographic and class - fantastic. It&#039;s also great to see the comments becoming more and more positive, even with a retraction of the (glaringly subjective) &#039;bored me to tears&#039; comment.

All media is representation - there cannot be an absolute truth in a piece of TV - its a ridiculous idea. Manipulation is inherent in the medium due to editing. In Transition&#039;s simple collection of stories, soft measured tone, lack of overarching narrative (it doesn&#039;t try to &#039;tell&#039; you anything) is us deliberately attempting to make the presentation as neutral-as-possible. However I can understand why some found this approach irritating.

The film is the result of a thoughtful sift through tens of hours of footage, with a selection process based on showing a good &#039;general mix&#039; of projects, depending on what was sent in. Is &#039;In Transition&#039; truly representative of the gender/class/ethnic balance of the movement ? On a global level probably not, but for the UK, it probably is. For a single mum on benefits, or a struggling family in a highrise, buying local organic food is a joke, but if we had &#039;positively discriminated&#039; a different ethnic/class balance in the film wouldn&#039;t that have been worse ?

A group shutting eyes and visualising a better future &#039;cultish&#039; ? If the people involved had been wearing suits would this sequence have elicited the same response ? It would seem to me very sad if the more spiritual side of the movement, personal transition, needed to be airbrushed out just because it makes a few people uneasy.

In retrospect I think the lesson learnt is that it&#039;s an impossible task to make a transition film. A diverse cross cultural international movement probably just can&#039;t be represented by a single piece of media. Maybe In Transition 2.0 should be an interactive pool of small stories contributed from around the world, where the viewer can create their own film, dynamically strung together via a few clicks on a web interface. In this way, transition media could sidestep representation, and become culturally and socially relevant to each viewer, whatever their background or location.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a fascinating thread, starting with Dave&#8217;s &#8216;it&#8217;s put me right off&#8217; and ending up with a debate about demographic and class &#8211; fantastic. It&#8217;s also great to see the comments becoming more and more positive, even with a retraction of the (glaringly subjective) &#8216;bored me to tears&#8217; comment.</p>
<p>All media is representation &#8211; there cannot be an absolute truth in a piece of TV &#8211; its a ridiculous idea. Manipulation is inherent in the medium due to editing. In Transition&#8217;s simple collection of stories, soft measured tone, lack of overarching narrative (it doesn&#8217;t try to &#8216;tell&#8217; you anything) is us deliberately attempting to make the presentation as neutral-as-possible. However I can understand why some found this approach irritating.</p>
<p>The film is the result of a thoughtful sift through tens of hours of footage, with a selection process based on showing a good &#8216;general mix&#8217; of projects, depending on what was sent in. Is &#8216;In Transition&#8217; truly representative of the gender/class/ethnic balance of the movement ? On a global level probably not, but for the UK, it probably is. For a single mum on benefits, or a struggling family in a highrise, buying local organic food is a joke, but if we had &#8216;positively discriminated&#8217; a different ethnic/class balance in the film wouldn&#8217;t that have been worse ?</p>
<p>A group shutting eyes and visualising a better future &#8216;cultish&#8217; ? If the people involved had been wearing suits would this sequence have elicited the same response ? It would seem to me very sad if the more spiritual side of the movement, personal transition, needed to be airbrushed out just because it makes a few people uneasy.</p>
<p>In retrospect I think the lesson learnt is that it&#8217;s an impossible task to make a transition film. A diverse cross cultural international movement probably just can&#8217;t be represented by a single piece of media. Maybe In Transition 2.0 should be an interactive pool of small stories contributed from around the world, where the viewer can create their own film, dynamically strung together via a few clicks on a web interface. In this way, transition media could sidestep representation, and become culturally and socially relevant to each viewer, whatever their background or location.</p>
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		<title>By: Kamil Pachalko</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kamil Pachalko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 10:44:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is an interesting discussion hopefully valuable to the film producers.

The theme that the film needs to appeal to different types of people seems to repeat itself throughout the posts. I wonder if someone looked at any research done in that area. This would inform the film producers and they would construct the message in the film to do exactly that.

I&#039;m not an expert but I&#039;ve stumbled over two approaches recently and would love to see someone with a better understanding of those things comment on the film through their lens.

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 I&#039;ve found a valuable website www.campaignstrategy.org and www.cultdyn.co.uk and their model describing how our values underpin our decisions. They basically map society on the base of their values and explain how one has to communicate with people in various groups to affect change.

This presentation gives a very good visual explanation to the model and shows examples of strategies for climate change campaigns to reach to people with diverse sets of values http://www.campaignstrategy.org/articles/int_values_campaign.pdf The article http://www.campaignstrategy.org/articles/VBCOP_unifying_strategy_model.pdf shows a practical application of the model while the www.cultdyn.co.uk website and newsletters on www.campaignstrategy.org explain the theory behind it.
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Fourcultures This theory is a bit different from the above but again suggests that there are four cultures within society. http://fourcultures.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is an interesting discussion hopefully valuable to the film producers.</p>
<p>The theme that the film needs to appeal to different types of people seems to repeat itself throughout the posts. I wonder if someone looked at any research done in that area. This would inform the film producers and they would construct the message in the film to do exactly that.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not an expert but I&#8217;ve stumbled over two approaches recently and would love to see someone with a better understanding of those things comment on the film through their lens.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-<br />
 I&#8217;ve found a valuable website <a href="http://www.campaignstrategy.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.campaignstrategy.org</a> and <a href="http://www.cultdyn.co.uk" rel="nofollow">http://www.cultdyn.co.uk</a> and their model describing how our values underpin our decisions. They basically map society on the base of their values and explain how one has to communicate with people in various groups to affect change.</p>
<p>This presentation gives a very good visual explanation to the model and shows examples of strategies for climate change campaigns to reach to people with diverse sets of values <a href="http://www.campaignstrategy.org/articles/int_values_campaign.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.campaignstrategy.org/articles/int_values_campaign.pdf</a> The article <a href="http://www.campaignstrategy.org/articles/VBCOP_unifying_strategy_model.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.campaignstrategy.org/articles/VBCOP_unifying_strategy_model.pdf</a> shows a practical application of the model while the <a href="http://www.cultdyn.co.uk" rel="nofollow">http://www.cultdyn.co.uk</a> website and newsletters on <a href="http://www.campaignstrategy.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.campaignstrategy.org</a> explain the theory behind it.<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;<br />
Fourcultures This theory is a bit different from the above but again suggests that there are four cultures within society. <a href="http://fourcultures.com/" rel="nofollow">http://fourcultures.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Tom A</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom A</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 10:13:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>+1 for James&#039;s comment above. After 90 odd comments I think he has nailed it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>+1 for James&#8217;s comment above. After 90 odd comments I think he has nailed it!</p>
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		<title>By: Vidar Kristiansen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vidar Kristiansen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 09:58:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, I agree that we need not take the debate any further. Good luck to you and your projects too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I agree that we need not take the debate any further. Good luck to you and your projects too.</p>
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		<title>By: Graham Burnett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Graham Burnett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 09:46:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well I kind of feel that I&#039;ve made my points and to argue them any further would be counterproductive and not a good use of my time or yours Vidar. I&#039;m not sure that we totally understand where each other are coming from and that perhaps to some degree we are misunderstanding each other. But whats important is that Rob and the film makers have had the feedback they were asking for, and will hopefully take on board the suggestions and consider adapting the film accordingly, and also maybe that the issue of class in transition and how we &#039;market&#039; transition has been raised on the agenda for maybe more detailed discussion elsewhere.
Good luck to you and all your projects!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well I kind of feel that I&#8217;ve made my points and to argue them any further would be counterproductive and not a good use of my time or yours Vidar. I&#8217;m not sure that we totally understand where each other are coming from and that perhaps to some degree we are misunderstanding each other. But whats important is that Rob and the film makers have had the feedback they were asking for, and will hopefully take on board the suggestions and consider adapting the film accordingly, and also maybe that the issue of class in transition and how we &#8216;market&#8217; transition has been raised on the agenda for maybe more detailed discussion elsewhere.<br />
Good luck to you and all your projects!</p>
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		<title>By: Vidar Kristiansen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vidar Kristiansen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 21:21:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Graham, My point is that your web page seems to underline that &quot;In Transition&quot; painted a pretty accurate picture as to which type of people are mostly involved in transition at this stage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Graham, My point is that your web page seems to underline that &#8220;In Transition&#8221; painted a pretty accurate picture as to which type of people are mostly involved in transition at this stage.</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
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		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 21:19:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What worries me about the discussion above is that we even have to think about the demographics of viewers.  Did Rebecca Hosking spend for ever debating it before producing the seminal &#039;A Farm for the Future?&#039;  Does Franny Armstrong aim at a certain sector of the community with &#039;Age of Stupid&#039;?  &#039;In Transition&#039; just needs to tell the truth in an objective, honest well-researched and when required, scientific terms.  There should be no emotional tampering.  When viewers are confronted with facts (even ones unpalatable to the transition movement) they become interested and inspired.  That is the strength of Robs Book and should be the cornerstone of &#039;In Transition&#039;.  My adverse reaction (and that of my family) was that the film in it&#039;s present format is not yet pragmatic and honest enough - it uses too much emotional trickery.  Emotional tricks work well on a certain sector of the community (usually those with a strong sense of the &#039;spiritual&#039;) which is why the film felt as if it was aimed at a particular type of person.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What worries me about the discussion above is that we even have to think about the demographics of viewers.  Did Rebecca Hosking spend for ever debating it before producing the seminal &#8216;A Farm for the Future?&#8217;  Does Franny Armstrong aim at a certain sector of the community with &#8216;Age of Stupid&#8217;?  &#8216;In Transition&#8217; just needs to tell the truth in an objective, honest well-researched and when required, scientific terms.  There should be no emotional tampering.  When viewers are confronted with facts (even ones unpalatable to the transition movement) they become interested and inspired.  That is the strength of Robs Book and should be the cornerstone of &#8216;In Transition&#8217;.  My adverse reaction (and that of my family) was that the film in it&#8217;s present format is not yet pragmatic and honest enough &#8211; it uses too much emotional trickery.  Emotional tricks work well on a certain sector of the community (usually those with a strong sense of the &#8216;spiritual&#8217;) which is why the film felt as if it was aimed at a particular type of person.</p>
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		<title>By: Graham Burnett</title>
		<link>http://transitionculture.org/2009/06/11/please-take-your-seats-ladies-and-gentlement-the-online-screening-of-in-transitionstarts-now/comment-page-2/#comment-63233</link>
		<dc:creator>Graham Burnett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 21:03:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your point?</description>
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		<title>By: Vidar Kristiansen</title>
		<link>http://transitionculture.org/2009/06/11/please-take-your-seats-ladies-and-gentlement-the-online-screening-of-in-transitionstarts-now/comment-page-2/#comment-63232</link>
		<dc:creator>Vidar Kristiansen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 20:09:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Graham, I just had a look at the photos of the attendees of your permaculture training courses on your web page. They also seem to show largely the same type of people that &quot;In Transition&quot; does.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Graham, I just had a look at the photos of the attendees of your permaculture training courses on your web page. They also seem to show largely the same type of people that &#8220;In Transition&#8221; does.</p>
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		<title>By: Graham Burnett</title>
		<link>http://transitionculture.org/2009/06/11/please-take-your-seats-ladies-and-gentlement-the-online-screening-of-in-transitionstarts-now/comment-page-2/#comment-63231</link>
		<dc:creator>Graham Burnett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 19:11:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NB. My reply was intended to be made to your earlier post, not the second one which I hadn&#039;t seen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NB. My reply was intended to be made to your earlier post, not the second one which I hadn&#8217;t seen.</p>
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