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	<title>Comments on: An Economics Addition to &#8216;The Transition Handbook&#8217;</title>
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		<title>By: The world&#8217;s next breath &#171; Transition Chicago (TC)</title>
		<link>http://transitionculture.org/2009/04/27/an-economics-addition-to-the-transition-handbook/comment-page-1/#comment-62773</link>
		<dc:creator>The world&#8217;s next breath &#171; Transition Chicago (TC)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 13:25:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Apart from the primer, Hopkins wrote a Handbook that expands on the entire Transition Culture (incidentally also the name of his website). He also collaborated on the recently published Transition Timeline and the Economics Addition to the Transition Handbook. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Apart from the primer, Hopkins wrote a Handbook that expands on the entire Transition Culture (incidentally also the name of his website). He also collaborated on the recently published Transition Timeline and the Economics Addition to the Transition Handbook. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Rowena</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rowena</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2009 21:32:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a student of economics 20 years ago, there always seemed to be two big problems for the natural world and our economic understanding of what we are up to on the planet. 

1) Intertemporal myopia (wonderful phrase meaning literally intergenerational shortsightedness - we tend to view the present as &#039;the most important&#039; and to overborrow from the future to live better now) 

2) the correct &#039;pricing&#039; of the enviroment and the competing priorities and protections of the rights of people, plants, animals and planet.

Many economists and politicians have for years been saying that GDP/ GNP ie growth measurements are a fairly poor way to indicate wellbeing and &#039;wealth&#039; and that &#039;balance sheets&#039; of natural and other assets are much more sensible measurements. the New Economics Foundation nef have done some good work in this area.

Lots of people are working internationally on 2), but I think 1) is much harder to crack unless there is very much more spiritually humble acceptance of ourselves in the great scheme of things.

Sadly the idea of &#039;passing on an inheritance&#039; has come under very bad press (I would say from &#039;socialists&#039; but we can argue about this one), but this ethos with a less personal facet and a wider concept of &#039;inheritance&#039; is one part of the solution. 

Glad to see this debate and well done to those collaborative Dutch people for kicking it off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a student of economics 20 years ago, there always seemed to be two big problems for the natural world and our economic understanding of what we are up to on the planet. </p>
<p>1) Intertemporal myopia (wonderful phrase meaning literally intergenerational shortsightedness &#8211; we tend to view the present as &#8216;the most important&#8217; and to overborrow from the future to live better now) </p>
<p>2) the correct &#8216;pricing&#8217; of the enviroment and the competing priorities and protections of the rights of people, plants, animals and planet.</p>
<p>Many economists and politicians have for years been saying that GDP/ GNP ie growth measurements are a fairly poor way to indicate wellbeing and &#8216;wealth&#8217; and that &#8216;balance sheets&#8217; of natural and other assets are much more sensible measurements. the New Economics Foundation nef have done some good work in this area.</p>
<p>Lots of people are working internationally on 2), but I think 1) is much harder to crack unless there is very much more spiritually humble acceptance of ourselves in the great scheme of things.</p>
<p>Sadly the idea of &#8216;passing on an inheritance&#8217; has come under very bad press (I would say from &#8217;socialists&#8217; but we can argue about this one), but this ethos with a less personal facet and a wider concept of &#8216;inheritance&#8217; is one part of the solution. </p>
<p>Glad to see this debate and well done to those collaborative Dutch people for kicking it off.</p>
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		<title>By: An Economics Addition to ‘The Transition Handbook’ &#171; Transition Chicago (TC)</title>
		<link>http://transitionculture.org/2009/04/27/an-economics-addition-to-the-transition-handbook/comment-page-1/#comment-62590</link>
		<dc:creator>An Economics Addition to ‘The Transition Handbook’ &#171; Transition Chicago (TC)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2009 16:00:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] An Economics Addition to ‘The Transition&#160;Handbook’  By Rob Hopkins http://transitionculture.org [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] An Economics Addition to ‘The Transition&nbsp;Handbook’  By Rob Hopkins <a href="http://transitionculture.org" rel="nofollow">http://transitionculture.org</a> [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Neues Kapitel des Energiewende-Handbuchs zur Wirtschaft &#171; Energiewende</title>
		<link>http://transitionculture.org/2009/04/27/an-economics-addition-to-the-transition-handbook/comment-page-1/#comment-62566</link>
		<dc:creator>Neues Kapitel des Energiewende-Handbuchs zur Wirtschaft &#171; Energiewende</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 19:17:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] April 2009 von Bernd    Rob hat im englischen Blog ein Zusatzkapitel für „Energiewende – das Handbuch“ bereitgestellt, in dem er auf den Zusammenhang von [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] April 2009 von Bernd    Rob hat im englischen Blog ein Zusatzkapitel für „Energiewende – das Handbuch“ bereitgestellt, in dem er auf den Zusammenhang von [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Economies in Transition - Money needs growth and growth needs energy &#171; Ukiah Blog Live</title>
		<link>http://transitionculture.org/2009/04/27/an-economics-addition-to-the-transition-handbook/comment-page-1/#comment-62562</link>
		<dc:creator>Economies in Transition - Money needs growth and growth needs energy &#171; Ukiah Blog Live</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 13:54:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Keep reading Economies in Transition→ [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Leo Brodie</title>
		<link>http://transitionculture.org/2009/04/27/an-economics-addition-to-the-transition-handbook/comment-page-1/#comment-62555</link>
		<dc:creator>Leo Brodie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 02:56:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well done! I think it makes sense to add this section to the handbook, since the fragility of our economic system has become so obvious after the original publication.

May I suggest that it doesn&#039;t need to be so UK centric. For example, in the sentence &quot;The UK Government’s bailout of the banks and of the car industry...&quot; -- take out &quot;UK&quot; and the sentence fits perfectly over here in the States.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well done! I think it makes sense to add this section to the handbook, since the fragility of our economic system has become so obvious after the original publication.</p>
<p>May I suggest that it doesn&#8217;t need to be so UK centric. For example, in the sentence &#8220;The UK Government’s bailout of the banks and of the car industry&#8230;&#8221; &#8212; take out &#8220;UK&#8221; and the sentence fits perfectly over here in the States.</p>
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		<title>By: Bernd Ohm</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bernd Ohm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 12:24:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rob, great and well-needed piece (which I aim to translate for the German TT blog), but I have a little criticism: according to Wikipedia, the Josiah Stamp quote is not sourced. Do you think you could rewrite the paragraph without using the quote? It is usually found on conspiracy web sites, which does not aide TT&#039;s credibility. Thanks for considering this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rob, great and well-needed piece (which I aim to translate for the German TT blog), but I have a little criticism: according to Wikipedia, the Josiah Stamp quote is not sourced. Do you think you could rewrite the paragraph without using the quote? It is usually found on conspiracy web sites, which does not aide TT&#8217;s credibility. Thanks for considering this.</p>
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		<title>By: New Chapter on Economics for the Transition Handbook - New Forest Transition</title>
		<link>http://transitionculture.org/2009/04/27/an-economics-addition-to-the-transition-handbook/comment-page-1/#comment-62546</link>
		<dc:creator>New Chapter on Economics for the Transition Handbook - New Forest Transition</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 09:21:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] of success of the continuing drive towards growth at a time when we face an energy crunch.http://transitionculture.org/2009/04/27/an-economics-addition-to-the-transition-handbook/   Posted by Richard &#124; Comments (0)      Trackbacks  Trackback specific URI for this entry   No [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] of success of the continuing drive towards growth at a time when we face an energy crunch.http://transitionculture.org/2009/04/27/an-economics-addition-to-the-transition-handbook/   Posted by Richard | Comments (0)      Trackbacks  Trackback specific URI for this entry   No [...]</p>
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