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		<title>By: Dov Henis</title>
		<link>http://transitionculture.org/2008/12/02/a-write-up-of-the-2008-soil-association-conference/comment-page-1/#comment-60862</link>
		<dc:creator>Dov Henis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 17:03:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Separate Technology From Science To Renovate Our Culture Including Economy


- What do you think of the latest Obama&#039;s science appointments? 
- Who else would you like to see step in to the remaining coveted appointments?


Again and again, with the hope that this takes roots:

Since the 1920s technology development has been THE TOOL of capital formation.
&quot;Implications Of Science And Technology Evolution&quot;
 http://blog.360.yahoo.com/blog-P81pQcU1dLBbHgtjQjxG_Q--?cq=1&amp;p=419

Since the 1920s technology development has been THE TOOL of capital formation and accumulation, together with their inherent social and societal values, attitudes and life style and even together with their inherent individual and societal-social ethics.

The technology culture has been corrupting the status of science and has relegated science, the banner and hope of human enlightenment and rational evolution, to the file of quaint items. This process has been and is being perpetrated with the dedicated cooperation of the politically entrenched Science Establishment.   

As long as Science and Technologhy are considered and handled, conceptually and administratively, as one realm and one faculty this corruption cannot and will not be overcome. This conception and  attitude is THE CORRUPTION OF SCIENCE BY THE 21st CENTURY TECHNOLOGY CULTURE.

I note, with diappointment, acclaim of Obama&#039;s picks of AAAS personalities. This, for me, is a reason for sad apprehension. There better be other reasons for the acclaim since AAAS, Science&#039;s Establishment Guild, is one of the major perpetrators of the corruption of science by the 21st century technology culture.   


Dov Henis

(Comments From The 22nd Century)
 http://blog.360.yahoo.com/blog-P81pQcU1dLBbHgtjQjxG_Q--?cq=1</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Separate Technology From Science To Renovate Our Culture Including Economy</p>
<p>- What do you think of the latest Obama&#8217;s science appointments?<br />
- Who else would you like to see step in to the remaining coveted appointments?</p>
<p>Again and again, with the hope that this takes roots:</p>
<p>Since the 1920s technology development has been THE TOOL of capital formation.<br />
&#8220;Implications Of Science And Technology Evolution&#8221;<br />
 <a href="http://blog.360.yahoo.com/blog-P81pQcU1dLBbHgtjQjxG_Q--?cq=1&#038;p=419" rel="nofollow">http://blog.360.yahoo.com/blog-P81pQcU1dLBbHgtjQjxG_Q&#8211;?cq=1&#038;p=419</a></p>
<p>Since the 1920s technology development has been THE TOOL of capital formation and accumulation, together with their inherent social and societal values, attitudes and life style and even together with their inherent individual and societal-social ethics.</p>
<p>The technology culture has been corrupting the status of science and has relegated science, the banner and hope of human enlightenment and rational evolution, to the file of quaint items. This process has been and is being perpetrated with the dedicated cooperation of the politically entrenched Science Establishment.   </p>
<p>As long as Science and Technologhy are considered and handled, conceptually and administratively, as one realm and one faculty this corruption cannot and will not be overcome. This conception and  attitude is THE CORRUPTION OF SCIENCE BY THE 21st CENTURY TECHNOLOGY CULTURE.</p>
<p>I note, with diappointment, acclaim of Obama&#8217;s picks of AAAS personalities. This, for me, is a reason for sad apprehension. There better be other reasons for the acclaim since AAAS, Science&#8217;s Establishment Guild, is one of the major perpetrators of the corruption of science by the 21st century technology culture.   </p>
<p>Dov Henis</p>
<p>(Comments From The 22nd Century)<br />
 <a href="http://blog.360.yahoo.com/blog-P81pQcU1dLBbHgtjQjxG_Q--?cq=1" rel="nofollow">http://blog.360.yahoo.com/blog-P81pQcU1dLBbHgtjQjxG_Q&#8211;?cq=1</a></p>
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		<title>By: Dov Henis</title>
		<link>http://transitionculture.org/2008/12/02/a-write-up-of-the-2008-soil-association-conference/comment-page-1/#comment-60618</link>
		<dc:creator>Dov Henis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 02:13:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Renovate Western Culture, Separate Science From Technology
Separate Them Conceptually And Administratively
21st Century Economy Collapse Is Collapse Of Technology Culture
Enhance Public&#039;s Science Information-Awareness


A. Science Reporting Fallout
http://www.sciencenews.org/view/generic/id/39060/title/Science_Reporting_Fallout
Newspaper cutbacks are being linked to diminished science reporting.

- Baltimore Sun: &quot; a quick update to yesterday’s story about the epidemic downsizing of U.S. newspaper staffs&quot;...

- Doing ‘more with less’ has degenerated to doing less with less. Science and environment stories are often shortened substantially to meet with tightening space constraints, or they don’t make it into print at all.

- No matter how you spin it, that can’t be good for ensuring an informed electorate. What’s more, you know that with the deep job cuts occurring in newsrooms across the country, the Sun’s approach can hardly be unique...


B. CNN downsizes science team
http://www.sciencenews.org/view/generic/id/39025/title/CNN_downsizes_science_team
The move and timing for greatly restructuring science-and-environment coverage at the nation&#039;s all-news cable giant are perplexing.

According to a prepared statement issued by the network, “We want to integrate environmental, science and technology reporting into the general editorial structure rather than have a stand alone unit.  Now that the bulk of our environmental coverage is being offered through the Planet in Peril franchise . . . there is no need for a separate unit.”


C. Since the 1920s technology development has been THE TOOL of capital formation

&quot;Implications Of Science And Technology Evolution&quot;
 http://blog.360.yahoo.com/blog-P81pQcU1dLBbHgtjQjxG_Q--?cq=1&amp;p=419

Since the 1920s technology development has been THE TOOL of capital formation and accumulation, together with their inherent social and societal values, attitudes and life style and even together with their inherent individual and societal-social ethics.

The technology culture has been corrupting the status of science and has relegated science, the banner and hope of human enlightenment and rational evolution, to the file of quaint items. This process has been and is being perpetrated with the dedicated cooperation of the politically entrenched Science Establishment.   

As long as Science and Technologhy are considered and handled, conceptually and administratively, as one realm and one faculty this corruption cannot and will not be overcome. This conception and  attitude is THE CORRUPTION OF SCIENCE BY THE 21st CENTURY TECHNOLOGY CULTURE.


Dov Henis

(A DH Comment From The 22nd Century)
 http://blog.360.yahoo.com/blog-P81pQcU1dLBbHgtjQjxG_Q--?cq=1

 Science Creed Manifest (SCM) 
 http://blog.360.yahoo.com/blog-P81pQcU1dLBbHgtjQjxG_Q--?cq=1&amp;p=142</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Renovate Western Culture, Separate Science From Technology<br />
Separate Them Conceptually And Administratively<br />
21st Century Economy Collapse Is Collapse Of Technology Culture<br />
Enhance Public&#8217;s Science Information-Awareness</p>
<p>A. Science Reporting Fallout<br />
<a href="http://www.sciencenews.org/view/generic/id/39060/title/Science_Reporting_Fallout" rel="nofollow">http://www.sciencenews.org/view/generic/id/39060/title/Science_Reporting_Fallout</a><br />
Newspaper cutbacks are being linked to diminished science reporting.</p>
<p>- Baltimore Sun: &#8221; a quick update to yesterday’s story about the epidemic downsizing of U.S. newspaper staffs&#8221;&#8230;</p>
<p>- Doing ‘more with less’ has degenerated to doing less with less. Science and environment stories are often shortened substantially to meet with tightening space constraints, or they don’t make it into print at all.</p>
<p>- No matter how you spin it, that can’t be good for ensuring an informed electorate. What’s more, you know that with the deep job cuts occurring in newsrooms across the country, the Sun’s approach can hardly be unique&#8230;</p>
<p>B. CNN downsizes science team<br />
<a href="http://www.sciencenews.org/view/generic/id/39025/title/CNN_downsizes_science_team" rel="nofollow">http://www.sciencenews.org/view/generic/id/39025/title/CNN_downsizes_science_team</a><br />
The move and timing for greatly restructuring science-and-environment coverage at the nation&#8217;s all-news cable giant are perplexing.</p>
<p>According to a prepared statement issued by the network, “We want to integrate environmental, science and technology reporting into the general editorial structure rather than have a stand alone unit.  Now that the bulk of our environmental coverage is being offered through the Planet in Peril franchise . . . there is no need for a separate unit.”</p>
<p>C. Since the 1920s technology development has been THE TOOL of capital formation</p>
<p>&#8220;Implications Of Science And Technology Evolution&#8221;<br />
 <a href="http://blog.360.yahoo.com/blog-P81pQcU1dLBbHgtjQjxG_Q--?cq=1&#038;p=419" rel="nofollow">http://blog.360.yahoo.com/blog-P81pQcU1dLBbHgtjQjxG_Q&#8211;?cq=1&#038;p=419</a></p>
<p>Since the 1920s technology development has been THE TOOL of capital formation and accumulation, together with their inherent social and societal values, attitudes and life style and even together with their inherent individual and societal-social ethics.</p>
<p>The technology culture has been corrupting the status of science and has relegated science, the banner and hope of human enlightenment and rational evolution, to the file of quaint items. This process has been and is being perpetrated with the dedicated cooperation of the politically entrenched Science Establishment.   </p>
<p>As long as Science and Technologhy are considered and handled, conceptually and administratively, as one realm and one faculty this corruption cannot and will not be overcome. This conception and  attitude is THE CORRUPTION OF SCIENCE BY THE 21st CENTURY TECHNOLOGY CULTURE.</p>
<p>Dov Henis</p>
<p>(A DH Comment From The 22nd Century)<br />
 <a href="http://blog.360.yahoo.com/blog-P81pQcU1dLBbHgtjQjxG_Q--?cq=1" rel="nofollow">http://blog.360.yahoo.com/blog-P81pQcU1dLBbHgtjQjxG_Q&#8211;?cq=1</a></p>
<p> Science Creed Manifest (SCM)<br />
 <a href="http://blog.360.yahoo.com/blog-P81pQcU1dLBbHgtjQjxG_Q--?cq=1&#038;p=142" rel="nofollow">http://blog.360.yahoo.com/blog-P81pQcU1dLBbHgtjQjxG_Q&#8211;?cq=1&#038;p=142</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mike Grenville</title>
		<link>http://transitionculture.org/2008/12/02/a-write-up-of-the-2008-soil-association-conference/comment-page-1/#comment-60574</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Grenville</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 11:49:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You quote Dr Pete Smith from Aberdeen University saying that a key challenge will be how to feed  9 billion people being on the Earth by 2050 , and the need to continually increase production. 

Surely if more of us were involved at least to some degree in growing some of our own food the whole equation is changed from how to feed 9 billion people but to look at how to enable them to feed themselves. I&#039;m not saying we should all grow all of our own food but we have developed a society where most people have no involvement in the process at any stage. 

By becoming particpants we could dramatically increase food production and at the same time increase respect for the process and substantially reduce food and packaging waste.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You quote Dr Pete Smith from Aberdeen University saying that a key challenge will be how to feed  9 billion people being on the Earth by 2050 , and the need to continually increase production. </p>
<p>Surely if more of us were involved at least to some degree in growing some of our own food the whole equation is changed from how to feed 9 billion people but to look at how to enable them to feed themselves. I&#8217;m not saying we should all grow all of our own food but we have developed a society where most people have no involvement in the process at any stage. </p>
<p>By becoming particpants we could dramatically increase food production and at the same time increase respect for the process and substantially reduce food and packaging waste.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Cole</title>
		<link>http://transitionculture.org/2008/12/02/a-write-up-of-the-2008-soil-association-conference/comment-page-1/#comment-60558</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Cole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 21:40:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK - found this
http://www.biotech-info.net/Full_version_first_nine.pdf

Had a quick look, it does appear to say that BT-GM has *reduced* pesticide usage, whilst HT-GM has increased.  I seem to recall Jimmy&#039;s programme was mostly about BT-GM, so the discrepancies fit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK &#8211; found this<br />
<a href="http://www.biotech-info.net/Full_version_first_nine.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.biotech-info.net/Full_version_first_nine.pdf</a></p>
<p>Had a quick look, it does appear to say that BT-GM has *reduced* pesticide usage, whilst HT-GM has increased.  I seem to recall Jimmy&#8217;s programme was mostly about BT-GM, so the discrepancies fit.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Cole</title>
		<link>http://transitionculture.org/2008/12/02/a-write-up-of-the-2008-soil-association-conference/comment-page-1/#comment-60557</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Cole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 21:30:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow - thanks for that, Mike.

For me it also came across as very pro-GM, and the issues of monoculture and the ensuing fertiliser use was not brought up at all in the programme.  I was very disappointed that the Soil Association spokesman didn&#039;t put such views across.

One of the programme&#039;s points did appear very convincing; If GM crops are bred to be resistant to (particular) pests, then they would require less use of pesticides.  Yet the claim from Matthews is the direct opposite.  Where is the research to back Matthews&#039; opinion?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow &#8211; thanks for that, Mike.</p>
<p>For me it also came across as very pro-GM, and the issues of monoculture and the ensuing fertiliser use was not brought up at all in the programme.  I was very disappointed that the Soil Association spokesman didn&#8217;t put such views across.</p>
<p>One of the programme&#8217;s points did appear very convincing; If GM crops are bred to be resistant to (particular) pests, then they would require less use of pesticides.  Yet the claim from Matthews is the direct opposite.  Where is the research to back Matthews&#8217; opinion?</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Grenville</title>
		<link>http://transitionculture.org/2008/12/02/a-write-up-of-the-2008-soil-association-conference/comment-page-1/#comment-60555</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Grenville</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 20:45:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here are some comments from GM Watch on the Jimmy programme:

As UK government ministers try once more to smooth the way for the entry of GM crops into the UK and Europe, Horizon, BBC television’s flagship science series, broadcast a programme that pretended to be a balanced look at GM. In fact, it was an advertisement for the GM industry. Fronted by the friendly face of farming, Jimmy Doherty, the programme managed to ignore all the problems and risks of GM while citing discredited promotional claims from the GM industry (GM means less pesticides, GM will feed the world) as fact. On the other hand, doubts about GM were twisted to sound unscientific and irrational and were immediately countered by yet another industry line of spin. GM Freeze warned the BBC in advance about the inaccuracies the and lack of balance in the programme.

Jonathan Matthews’s review for The Ecologist of Jimmy’s GM Food Fight:
http://www.theecologist.org:80/pages/archive_detail.asp?content_id=2003</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here are some comments from GM Watch on the Jimmy programme:</p>
<p>As UK government ministers try once more to smooth the way for the entry of GM crops into the UK and Europe, Horizon, BBC television’s flagship science series, broadcast a programme that pretended to be a balanced look at GM. In fact, it was an advertisement for the GM industry. Fronted by the friendly face of farming, Jimmy Doherty, the programme managed to ignore all the problems and risks of GM while citing discredited promotional claims from the GM industry (GM means less pesticides, GM will feed the world) as fact. On the other hand, doubts about GM were twisted to sound unscientific and irrational and were immediately countered by yet another industry line of spin. GM Freeze warned the BBC in advance about the inaccuracies the and lack of balance in the programme.</p>
<p>Jonathan Matthews’s review for The Ecologist of Jimmy’s GM Food Fight:<br />
<a href="http://www.theecologist.org:80/pages/archive_detail.asp?content_id=2003" rel="nofollow">http://www.theecologist.org:80/pages/archive_detail.asp?content_id=2003</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jason Cole</title>
		<link>http://transitionculture.org/2008/12/02/a-write-up-of-the-2008-soil-association-conference/comment-page-1/#comment-60546</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Cole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 00:03:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good write up - thanks.

I wonder what peoples&#039; thoughts are on Jimmy Doherty&#039;s recent programme about GM:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00fsxq6/Horizon_Jimmys_GM_Food_Fight/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good write up &#8211; thanks.</p>
<p>I wonder what peoples&#8217; thoughts are on Jimmy Doherty&#8217;s recent programme about GM:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00fsxq6/Horizon_Jimmys_GM_Food_Fight/" rel="nofollow">http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00fsxq6/Horizon_Jimmys_GM_Food_Fight/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Graham T</title>
		<link>http://transitionculture.org/2008/12/02/a-write-up-of-the-2008-soil-association-conference/comment-page-1/#comment-60542</link>
		<dc:creator>Graham T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 20:35:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great write up - thanks Rob. There were some valuable workshops. The reskilling discussion with a variety of perspectives - from the WWOOF movement to a farmer with more than 1,000 certified organic acres, was particularly interesting, not least for a rather predictable intervention by a trade union official, worried that volunteers would be exploited and perhaps &#039;take jobs&#039; from &#039;real&#039; workers. Some of us felt he&#039;d slightly missed the point, but it helped the discussion. 

I was at both the Soil Association conference and the Transition conference (in fact, inspired by your presentation at the former to attend the latter). Events with different formats, but great work being done by great people at both. Inspiring and energising.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great write up &#8211; thanks Rob. There were some valuable workshops. The reskilling discussion with a variety of perspectives &#8211; from the WWOOF movement to a farmer with more than 1,000 certified organic acres, was particularly interesting, not least for a rather predictable intervention by a trade union official, worried that volunteers would be exploited and perhaps &#8216;take jobs&#8217; from &#8216;real&#8217; workers. Some of us felt he&#8217;d slightly missed the point, but it helped the discussion. </p>
<p>I was at both the Soil Association conference and the Transition conference (in fact, inspired by your presentation at the former to attend the latter). Events with different formats, but great work being done by great people at both. Inspiring and energising.</p>
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