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		<title>By: octopod</title>
		<link>http://transitionculture.org/2008/08/22/what-happened-to-my-garden/comment-page-1/#comment-59302</link>
		<dc:creator>octopod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 18:36:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;You need chickens, stat. Borrow them if you need to, but you should probably get your own. They will be delighted to help you with your slug problem, as I find they&#039;ll almost always go for animal protein (all your slugs, caterpillars, and ants) before vegetable protein (the garden&#039;s leaves).&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You need chickens, stat. Borrow them if you need to, but you should probably get your own. They will be delighted to help you with your slug problem, as I find they&#8217;ll almost always go for animal protein (all your slugs, caterpillars, and ants) before vegetable protein (the garden&#8217;s leaves).</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2008 08:47:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Apols previous comment was mine - doh&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apols previous comment was mine &#8211; doh</p>
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		<title>By: Fred Hopwood</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fred Hopwood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2008 08:46:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;My lettuces bolted up to about three foot high while we were away. Not even the most intrepid caterpillar scaled the heights. Hope they didn&#039;t make a mental note to return when they&#039;re butterflies.
Mark&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My lettuces bolted up to about three foot high while we were away. Not even the most intrepid caterpillar scaled the heights. Hope they didn&#8217;t make a mental note to return when they&#8217;re butterflies.<br />
Mark</p>
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		<title>By: Fred Hopwood</title>
		<link>http://transitionculture.org/2008/08/22/what-happened-to-my-garden/comment-page-1/#comment-59134</link>
		<dc:creator>Fred Hopwood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 21:38:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Just got back from the beautiful (but presently  unsustainable) Isle of Colonsay, only away for ten days. My Broccoli and Cauliflower have been decimated by caterpillars.....tried to pick them off........an hour later just as many again !&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Next door to me lives  a greedy man in a bungalow set in an acre of beautiful garden, who has recently consulted a developer with a view to demolish bungalow , flatten garden including mature trees and build a small housing estate ( he has since withdrawn planning permission due to pressure from local resident&#039;s outrage.)
         Do you think I should hoover up the remaining caterpillars and eggs and re-house them in his vegetable garden, as he is obviously not to bothered about it&#039;s outcome,or would that be too naughty?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Regards fred.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just got back from the beautiful (but presently  unsustainable) Isle of Colonsay, only away for ten days. My Broccoli and Cauliflower have been decimated by caterpillars&#8230;..tried to pick them off&#8230;&#8230;..an hour later just as many again !</p>
<p>Next door to me lives  a greedy man in a bungalow set in an acre of beautiful garden, who has recently consulted a developer with a view to demolish bungalow , flatten garden including mature trees and build a small housing estate ( he has since withdrawn planning permission due to pressure from local resident&#8217;s outrage.)<br />
         Do you think I should hoover up the remaining caterpillars and eggs and re-house them in his vegetable garden, as he is obviously not to bothered about it&#8217;s outcome,or would that be too naughty?</p>
<p>Regards fred.</p>
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		<title>By: Darren Woodiwiss</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darren Woodiwiss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 12:47:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I hear that the Japanese have a delicasy of &quot;Crunchy raw sea slugs&quot;, maybe not the same as land slugs... maybe we should ask them to try.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;With regards to natural pesticides you can soak Rhubarb leaves or Crysanthamums (sp) for a week you get a natural poison that bio-degrades, it will however kill the good guys as well.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;On a programme here a couple of months ago called &quot;Catch it, kill it, cook it&quot; they produced a dish called &quot;Squirrel in Plum sauce&quot; basically the duck dish with squirrel. If you can&#039;t beat them... Eat them :o)&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hear that the Japanese have a delicasy of &#8220;Crunchy raw sea slugs&#8221;, maybe not the same as land slugs&#8230; maybe we should ask them to try.</p>
<p>With regards to natural pesticides you can soak Rhubarb leaves or Crysanthamums (sp) for a week you get a natural poison that bio-degrades, it will however kill the good guys as well.</p>
<p>On a programme here a couple of months ago called &#8220;Catch it, kill it, cook it&#8221; they produced a dish called &#8220;Squirrel in Plum sauce&#8221; basically the duck dish with squirrel. If you can&#8217;t beat them&#8230; Eat them <img src='http://transitionculture.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_surprised.gif' alt=':o' class='wp-smiley' /> )</p>
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		<title>By: Lucie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lucie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 10:08:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I also have a terrible slug problem partly because my main beds so far are in terraces with dry-stone walls which slugs just love. I&#039;ve done the bucket-at-midnight thing but it&#039;s very off-putting when you head back in at 1am only to find a whole new batch sliming it&#039;s way out of bed and into the brocolli.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I&#039;ve been experimenting with uses for old car tyres round the garden this year and grew very successful and happy lettuces, squashes and kale protected by inside-out tyres. If you cut both rims out with a really sharp Stanley knife it&#039;s very easy to turn them and the slugs didn&#039;t seem to be able to smell what was inside them.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also have a terrible slug problem partly because my main beds so far are in terraces with dry-stone walls which slugs just love. I&#8217;ve done the bucket-at-midnight thing but it&#8217;s very off-putting when you head back in at 1am only to find a whole new batch sliming it&#8217;s way out of bed and into the brocolli.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been experimenting with uses for old car tyres round the garden this year and grew very successful and happy lettuces, squashes and kale protected by inside-out tyres. If you cut both rims out with a really sharp Stanley knife it&#8217;s very easy to turn them and the slugs didn&#8217;t seem to be able to smell what was inside them.</p>
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		<title>By: Belgian Ann</title>
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		<dc:creator>Belgian Ann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 10:38:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hi Rob&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;My condolences, I know what it feels like to come back to utter devastation. It&#039;s not slugs that are a problem in my garden, I think I&#039;ve got that one sorted by allowing a good amount of &quot;groundcover&quot; weeds, lots of rotting matter and the like to remain in my beds and thereby providing a heaven for assorted amphibians and &quot;easy&quot; food for slugs. Although just recently we discovered a slug so big(15cm x 1,5cm) we nearly gave it a name and kept it as a pet!
When we came back from spending a week at Glasto, we found that squirrels had eaten every brassica in the garden, kale, kohlrabi, pakchoi, the lot, gone. Also all the apples of my two apple trees, gone. Strawberries? Must have been pudding! And to finish off: two beautiful mature silverbark birch stripped bare from 4 meters upwards. I have now joined the squirrel hating society and been busy trapping and relocating them, veggie ten year old daughter preventing squirrel pie being on the menu. My worry now is this: if a gardener manages to deal with one pest succesfully, does it mean the next test is a bigger kind of pest, due to its&#039; size capable of greater devastation?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Rob</p>
<p>My condolences, I know what it feels like to come back to utter devastation. It&#8217;s not slugs that are a problem in my garden, I think I&#8217;ve got that one sorted by allowing a good amount of &#8220;groundcover&#8221; weeds, lots of rotting matter and the like to remain in my beds and thereby providing a heaven for assorted amphibians and &#8220;easy&#8221; food for slugs. Although just recently we discovered a slug so big(15cm x 1,5cm) we nearly gave it a name and kept it as a pet!<br />
When we came back from spending a week at Glasto, we found that squirrels had eaten every brassica in the garden, kale, kohlrabi, pakchoi, the lot, gone. Also all the apples of my two apple trees, gone. Strawberries? Must have been pudding! And to finish off: two beautiful mature silverbark birch stripped bare from 4 meters upwards. I have now joined the squirrel hating society and been busy trapping and relocating them, veggie ten year old daughter preventing squirrel pie being on the menu. My worry now is this: if a gardener manages to deal with one pest succesfully, does it mean the next test is a bigger kind of pest, due to its&#8217; size capable of greater devastation?</p>
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		<title>By: Pooks</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pooks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 06:50:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Can anyone tell me how to remove the caterpillars without resorting to chemicals and insecticides? There are now far to many to remove them manually and the prospect of buying veg this winter is soul-destroying after all my work in the garden early in the year.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can anyone tell me how to remove the caterpillars without resorting to chemicals and insecticides? There are now far to many to remove them manually and the prospect of buying veg this winter is soul-destroying after all my work in the garden early in the year.</p>
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		<title>By: Bev Doherty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bev Doherty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 20:17:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks for your comment Leanne. However, I don&#039;t know about you Rob,but I&#039;ve had total lack of success with ducks.
Some years ago we put some duck eggs under a broody hen and got 6 ducks. Apart from making their &quot;mother&#039;s&quot; life a misery by making for any source of water at every opportunity,they disgraced themselves on their very first day in the veg garden by flattening all the crops with  their big feet. We persevered for a few days but the net result was endless broken plants and no detectable reduction in slug population whatsoever!
We&#039;ve offered the slugs to our hens, but unlike the well behaved hen on page 136 in Rob&#039;s book,ours won&#039;t touch slugs with a forty foot pole!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your comment Leanne. However, I don&#8217;t know about you Rob,but I&#8217;ve had total lack of success with ducks.<br />
Some years ago we put some duck eggs under a broody hen and got 6 ducks. Apart from making their &#8220;mother&#8217;s&#8221; life a misery by making for any source of water at every opportunity,they disgraced themselves on their very first day in the veg garden by flattening all the crops with  their big feet. We persevered for a few days but the net result was endless broken plants and no detectable reduction in slug population whatsoever!<br />
We&#8217;ve offered the slugs to our hens, but unlike the well behaved hen on page 136 in Rob&#8217;s book,ours won&#8217;t touch slugs with a forty foot pole!</p>
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		<title>By: Graham Burnett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Graham Burnett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 19:57:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hey Rob, you could always dry your slugs out in a low oven and sew them into trousers... I saw an article in Permaculture Magazine about it once...&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Rob, you could always dry your slugs out in a low oven and sew them into trousers&#8230; I saw an article in Permaculture Magazine about it once&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Graham Burnett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Graham Burnett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 19:56:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Rob said: &quot;Eating raw slugs. If anyone eats raw slugs, sorry, but surely something has already gone somewhat wrong somewhere… meningitis is the least of their worries surely.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I was once told a tale of some bushcrafting type who tried to impress this woman he fancied by eating a big fat juicy slug in front of her to show how &#039;hard&#039; he was. Apparently he had the slime stuck to the roof of his mouth for weeks afterwards. And I suspect the woman he was trying to woo was not best keen on giving him a great big snog after that. So that plan failed then.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rob said: &#8220;Eating raw slugs. If anyone eats raw slugs, sorry, but surely something has already gone somewhat wrong somewhere… meningitis is the least of their worries surely.&#8221;</p>
<p>I was once told a tale of some bushcrafting type who tried to impress this woman he fancied by eating a big fat juicy slug in front of her to show how &#8216;hard&#8217; he was. Apparently he had the slime stuck to the roof of his mouth for weeks afterwards. And I suspect the woman he was trying to woo was not best keen on giving him a great big snog after that. So that plan failed then.</p>
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		<title>By: Leanne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leanne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 08:40:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;You don&#039;t have an excess of pests. You have a lack of ducks.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;;-)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Seriously, ever thought of getting some?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You don&#8217;t have an excess of pests. You have a lack of ducks.</p>
<p> <img src='http://transitionculture.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Seriously, ever thought of getting some?</p>
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		<title>By: barb allen</title>
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		<dc:creator>barb allen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 03:22:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I live in a state in southeast USA that is experiencing severe drought for the second summer - if the rain brings the slugs then let there be slugs!! The exchange above is very amusing and reminds me that it&#039;s always better to laugh than cry, particularly with the slug invasion just described. Keep up the gardens and the good work!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I live in a state in southeast USA that is experiencing severe drought for the second summer &#8211; if the rain brings the slugs then let there be slugs!! The exchange above is very amusing and reminds me that it&#8217;s always better to laugh than cry, particularly with the slug invasion just described. Keep up the gardens and the good work!</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Watson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephen Watson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Aug 2008 18:35:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks Rob - sadly it seems that most slugs I&#039;ve encountered have obviously neglected to read their orders in Wikipedia and have just gone straight for the fresh new stuff instead of the old, manky dead stuff. Well, wouldn&#039;t you?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Rob &#8211; sadly it seems that most slugs I&#8217;ve encountered have obviously neglected to read their orders in Wikipedia and have just gone straight for the fresh new stuff instead of the old, manky dead stuff. Well, wouldn&#8217;t you?</p>
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		<title>By: Bev Doherty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bev Doherty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Aug 2008 10:24:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The thing is, if slugs play such an important role, how come everyone&#039;s garden and allotment do so much better without the blighters? Vegetation seems to be able to decay anyway without their interference.
You know... slugs are snails without shells. I ate snails once in France, albeit cooked in garlic butter. Overrated. Getting a slug down raw might be a good emetic though!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The thing is, if slugs play such an important role, how come everyone&#8217;s garden and allotment do so much better without the blighters? Vegetation seems to be able to decay anyway without their interference.<br />
You know&#8230; slugs are snails without shells. I ate snails once in France, albeit cooked in garlic butter. Overrated. Getting a slug down raw might be a good emetic though!</p>
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