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		<title>By: Lady D</title>
		<link>http://transitionculture.org/2008/06/26/sex-and-the-city-and-handbag-insanity/comment-page-1/#comment-61481</link>
		<dc:creator>Lady D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 17:27:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You all need to get laid and stop being such stiffs!</description>
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		<title>By: Peter Bralesford</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Bralesford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 10:13:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A year&#039;s worth of shoes!? I had a pair that lasted for years. I only got rid of them when my mother pointed out that they were falling to bits. 

And handbag renting? Even when I was only a young boy I had more sense that that... :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A year&#8217;s worth of shoes!? I had a pair that lasted for years. I only got rid of them when my mother pointed out that they were falling to bits. </p>
<p>And handbag renting? Even when I was only a young boy I had more sense that that&#8230; <img src='http://transitionculture.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Graham Burnett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Graham Burnett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 18:22:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Re handbags, I&#039;ve got a few of those cotton shopping bags from the Co-op, as well as my own &#039;designer&#039; &#039;Make compost Not War&#039; bag, but invariably forget to take them out with me when popping down the shop or off-license, so keep ending up with yet another plastic carrier bag, although have been getting better lately. Not very sustainable I know but I find a carrier bag stylish enough for my needs...&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re handbags, I&#8217;ve got a few of those cotton shopping bags from the Co-op, as well as my own &#8216;designer&#8217; &#8216;Make compost Not War&#8217; bag, but invariably forget to take them out with me when popping down the shop or off-license, so keep ending up with yet another plastic carrier bag, although have been getting better lately. Not very sustainable I know but I find a carrier bag stylish enough for my needs&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Graham Burnett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Graham Burnett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 18:17:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;vanessa and raffaela, I&#039;m biting my tongue so hard here it hurts...&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>vanessa and raffaela, I&#8217;m biting my tongue so hard here it hurts&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Watson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephen Watson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 13:19:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Rafaella, if &quot;hot new styles emerge and disappear in months if not weeks&quot; then who will rent last month&#039;s/week&#039;s fashion dud of a bag? Won&#039;t everyone want the latest design?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;And I suppose there really are people who change their handbags every week ..&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;And if buying or renting an outlandishly expensive handbag &quot;allows people to really play [and] have fun&quot; then they need to get out more. And how will the rest of us ever manage to play and have fun when we we can&#039;t afford these things? Maybe I&#039;ll just have to go for a walk, or spend time with my friends, or sing  instead!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rafaella, if &#8220;hot new styles emerge and disappear in months if not weeks&#8221; then who will rent last month&#8217;s/week&#8217;s fashion dud of a bag? Won&#8217;t everyone want the latest design?</p>
<p>And I suppose there really are people who change their handbags every week ..</p>
<p>And if buying or renting an outlandishly expensive handbag &#8220;allows people to really play [and] have fun&#8221; then they need to get out more. And how will the rest of us ever manage to play and have fun when we we can&#8217;t afford these things? Maybe I&#8217;ll just have to go for a walk, or spend time with my friends, or sing  instead!</p>
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		<title>By: Raffaella</title>
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		<dc:creator>Raffaella</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 09:54:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;In the handbag business, where hot new styles emerge and disappear in months if not weeks, a store that allows shoppers to rent bags for short periods of time allows people to really play, have fun and change up their style whenever they want. A Chloe Paddington handbag that retails for more than $2,000, for example, could be rented through Bag Borrow or Steal for a wedding, holiday party or other special occasion for $249.95 per month.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the handbag business, where hot new styles emerge and disappear in months if not weeks, a store that allows shoppers to rent bags for short periods of time allows people to really play, have fun and change up their style whenever they want. A Chloe Paddington handbag that retails for more than $2,000, for example, could be rented through Bag Borrow or Steal for a wedding, holiday party or other special occasion for $249.95 per month.</p>
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		<title>By: vanessa</title>
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		<dc:creator>vanessa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 13:57:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The show and the movie is not all about designer labels and fancy dresses its about four single independant woman who work for a living, living in a world of competion, finding love and happiness.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The show and the movie is not all about designer labels and fancy dresses its about four single independant woman who work for a living, living in a world of competion, finding love and happiness.</p>
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		<title>By: Susan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Susan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 05:26:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;@Rhiannon--&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I saw her reach toward the Forbes magazine too and for one split second I thought they were actually going to show her reading something grown-up and maybe (heaven forbid) decide to do something sensible/non-narcissistic with her life for a change...but of course, no, she just reached past it and grabbed the Vogue so she could idiotically obsess about her ex-boyfriend some more. Overall I didn&#039;t mind the TV show; it had its moments. But this movie was just so wildly out of joint with reality; it really left a bad taste in my mouth.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Rhiannon&#8211;</p>
<p>I saw her reach toward the Forbes magazine too and for one split second I thought they were actually going to show her reading something grown-up and maybe (heaven forbid) decide to do something sensible/non-narcissistic with her life for a change&#8230;but of course, no, she just reached past it and grabbed the Vogue so she could idiotically obsess about her ex-boyfriend some more. Overall I didn&#8217;t mind the TV show; it had its moments. But this movie was just so wildly out of joint with reality; it really left a bad taste in my mouth.</p>
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		<title>By: Rhiannon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rhiannon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 10:11:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Did you notice the part in the movie where Carrie picks up the issue of Vogue which she is featured in and the magazine underneath has a headline declaring the collapse of the housing market.  I thought this was an interesting choice of the director - like a tiny window into reality...&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did you notice the part in the movie where Carrie picks up the issue of Vogue which she is featured in and the magazine underneath has a headline declaring the collapse of the housing market.  I thought this was an interesting choice of the director &#8211; like a tiny window into reality&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Sonya</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sonya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 21:18:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Quite a while back while we were having a brainstorm on how to make things like backyard vegie patches and solar panels desirable, my marketing background came out and as most of you probably know, marketing is about using the seven deadly sins as your tools to get people to spend money they don&#039;t have to buy things they don&#039;t need to impress people they don&#039;t like...&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;But I envisaged a family spending an afternoon in their lush, abundant vegie filled backyard, playing in the sun and enjoying themselves... their harried neighbour, who&#039;s just finished a full day in a job they hate and is going to eat a plate full of rubbish for dinner asking &quot;how do you do it?&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The idea is to turn people &quot;green with envy&quot;.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quite a while back while we were having a brainstorm on how to make things like backyard vegie patches and solar panels desirable, my marketing background came out and as most of you probably know, marketing is about using the seven deadly sins as your tools to get people to spend money they don&#8217;t have to buy things they don&#8217;t need to impress people they don&#8217;t like&#8230;</p>
<p>But I envisaged a family spending an afternoon in their lush, abundant vegie filled backyard, playing in the sun and enjoying themselves&#8230; their harried neighbour, who&#8217;s just finished a full day in a job they hate and is going to eat a plate full of rubbish for dinner asking &#8220;how do you do it?&#8221;</p>
<p>The idea is to turn people &#8220;green with envy&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Madame Paula</title>
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		<dc:creator>Madame Paula</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 15:23:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I&#039;ve seen the movie too and it took me a while to understand what was going on because not even one single handbag (or shoe, dress etc...) was particularly beautiful. But this is probably my non existent sense for fashion. 
I still believe that the most beautiful fashion devices are the ones you find for three quid in a charity shop when you are not even in a shopping mood.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve seen the movie too and it took me a while to understand what was going on because not even one single handbag (or shoe, dress etc&#8230;) was particularly beautiful. But this is probably my non existent sense for fashion.<br />
I still believe that the most beautiful fashion devices are the ones you find for three quid in a charity shop when you are not even in a shopping mood.</p>
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		<title>By: Gareth Doutch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gareth Doutch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 10:24:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;This post didn&#039;t half make me laugh!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;This is why you need a TV Rob - you would have known to avoid it like the plague, LOL!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I was unfortunate enough to catch about 5 mins of an episode once. It was enough to gather that the main character was a columnist who got PAID a six figure salary FOR writing a column about her experiences with SEX.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Basically a slightly upmarket whore. But  a whore nonetheless. I&#039;m amazed you sat through it!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This post didn&#8217;t half make me laugh!</p>
<p>This is why you need a TV Rob &#8211; you would have known to avoid it like the plague, LOL!</p>
<p>I was unfortunate enough to catch about 5 mins of an episode once. It was enough to gather that the main character was a columnist who got PAID a six figure salary FOR writing a column about her experiences with SEX.</p>
<p>Basically a slightly upmarket whore. But  a whore nonetheless. I&#8217;m amazed you sat through it!</p>
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		<title>By: Ann</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 08:38:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I am not in the least bit surprised.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;It just goes to show how low we can sink.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Thankfully I and my family have never been swayed by designer labels, not just from the point of view we cannot afford, if I had the money I still wouldn&#039;t be so precious.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Most designer stuff is ridiculous in my opinion, it is after all just dress making etc in the end, nothing at all special. Why would someones name add huge amounts of money to the product? These people live off the backs of the stupidity of people who are greedy, social climbers believing that to own or rent something like this makes their lives better. How deeply saddening.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I once watched one of these programmes(not all the way through I might add, it made me want to throw up it was the biggest pile of cow poo I have ever seen and I fail to see how they could make a film from it and I can&#039;t understand how normal sane people can pay those huge cinema prices to go and see it.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Thank God most women are not all like these sad, no hoper, narcissistic nymphomaniacs in real life.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not in the least bit surprised.</p>
<p>It just goes to show how low we can sink.</p>
<p>Thankfully I and my family have never been swayed by designer labels, not just from the point of view we cannot afford, if I had the money I still wouldn&#8217;t be so precious.</p>
<p>Most designer stuff is ridiculous in my opinion, it is after all just dress making etc in the end, nothing at all special. Why would someones name add huge amounts of money to the product? These people live off the backs of the stupidity of people who are greedy, social climbers believing that to own or rent something like this makes their lives better. How deeply saddening.</p>
<p>I once watched one of these programmes(not all the way through I might add, it made me want to throw up it was the biggest pile of cow poo I have ever seen and I fail to see how they could make a film from it and I can&#8217;t understand how normal sane people can pay those huge cinema prices to go and see it.</p>
<p>Thank God most women are not all like these sad, no hoper, narcissistic nymphomaniacs in real life.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Brandis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Brandis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 00:36:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;This is an interesting discussion, and also points to some possible reasons why &quot;transition culture folk&quot; (permaculturists, local foodists, anti-this and that) have largely been ineffective to date in making real changes to our Western culture.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Calling people who are caught up in the consumerist ideology &quot;vacuous&quot; seems particularly counter productive to getting them to change their behaviour. Perhaps this is like blaming the victim: She must be vacuous given her consumption (or hiring) of handbags.  She flaunts her brand names, so she mustn’t have deeper feelings or concerns. Don’t you realise that these people have been bombarded with consumerist messages since they were born, and just responding in the ways the larger culture has asked them to?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Rather than focus on the women’s peculiar love affair with shoes and handbags, an alternative focus would be to see through the surface and look at the relationships between the four women, and how these were far more important than the stuff the buy, wear or hire. And ask them (not tell them) to reflect on how more important their relationships were to their well being. In fact the movie does deal with many emotional and big issues – raising children with love, dealing with infidelity, relationship break-ups, being honest to your true self, being supportive of your friends when they are doing it tough – aren’t some of these behavious critical to a transition culture? Of course the issues are raised through the froth and bubble of a lightweight soapie - this is not deep and meaningful cinema, and nor does in pretend to be.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Lighten up! Granted, the world’s in a huge mess, but let’s also remember to rejoice and celebrate in this time of change. And include the buyers of brand names in our celebrations.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;As ROG says above, the transition movement needs to be accessible to people who love designer handbags, as well as all the other addicts of society. Let’s be compassionate with these people. Don’t “bag” them!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;And don’t call them vacuous.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is an interesting discussion, and also points to some possible reasons why &#8220;transition culture folk&#8221; (permaculturists, local foodists, anti-this and that) have largely been ineffective to date in making real changes to our Western culture.</p>
<p>Calling people who are caught up in the consumerist ideology &#8220;vacuous&#8221; seems particularly counter productive to getting them to change their behaviour. Perhaps this is like blaming the victim: She must be vacuous given her consumption (or hiring) of handbags.  She flaunts her brand names, so she mustn’t have deeper feelings or concerns. Don’t you realise that these people have been bombarded with consumerist messages since they were born, and just responding in the ways the larger culture has asked them to?</p>
<p>Rather than focus on the women’s peculiar love affair with shoes and handbags, an alternative focus would be to see through the surface and look at the relationships between the four women, and how these were far more important than the stuff the buy, wear or hire. And ask them (not tell them) to reflect on how more important their relationships were to their well being. In fact the movie does deal with many emotional and big issues – raising children with love, dealing with infidelity, relationship break-ups, being honest to your true self, being supportive of your friends when they are doing it tough – aren’t some of these behavious critical to a transition culture? Of course the issues are raised through the froth and bubble of a lightweight soapie &#8211; this is not deep and meaningful cinema, and nor does in pretend to be.</p>
<p>Lighten up! Granted, the world’s in a huge mess, but let’s also remember to rejoice and celebrate in this time of change. And include the buyers of brand names in our celebrations.</p>
<p>As ROG says above, the transition movement needs to be accessible to people who love designer handbags, as well as all the other addicts of society. Let’s be compassionate with these people. Don’t “bag” them!</p>
<p>And don’t call them vacuous.</p>
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		<title>By: AndrewP</title>
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		<dc:creator>AndrewP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jun 2008 16:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;! uderstand Andy&#039;s comment about Hollywood and corporate America, yet every now and again out pops a subversive movie that makes me wonder how it got past the corporate ethics police. Have any of you seen &quot;Over the Hedge&quot;? It takes a pot shot at just about every aspect of &quot;modern sophisticated&quot; culture (is that a contradiction in terms?)&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>! uderstand Andy&#8217;s comment about Hollywood and corporate America, yet every now and again out pops a subversive movie that makes me wonder how it got past the corporate ethics police. Have any of you seen &#8220;Over the Hedge&#8221;? It takes a pot shot at just about every aspect of &#8220;modern sophisticated&#8221; culture (is that a contradiction in terms?)</p>
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