Comments on: John Papworth on Transition: From Fourth World Quarterly Review http://transitionculture.org/2008/05/28/john-papworth-on-transition-from-fourth-world-quarterly-review/ An Evolving Exploration into the Head, Heart and Hands of Energy Descent Mon, 13 Feb 2012 00:35:27 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Helen Dew http://transitionculture.org/2008/05/28/john-papworth-on-transition-from-fourth-world-quarterly-review/comment-page-1/#comment-60905 Helen Dew Mon, 05 Jan 2009 02:09:32 +0000 http://transitionculture.org/?p=1167#comment-60905 PS to the above: FWR is available online via the NZ Transition Towns site http://www.transitiontowns.org.nz/node/1104 or contact editor Jon Hughes at 96 Gayton House Knapp Rd. London E3 4BY www.4wr.org I'm happy to post hard copies within New Zealand - email helend at contact.net.nz. PS to the above:
FWR is available online via the NZ Transition Towns site http://www.transitiontowns.org.nz/node/1104 or contact editor Jon Hughes at 96 Gayton House
Knapp Rd. London E3 4BY http://www.4wr.org I’m happy to post hard copies within New Zealand – email helend at contact.net.nz.

]]> By: Helen Dew http://transitionculture.org/2008/05/28/john-papworth-on-transition-from-fourth-world-quarterly-review/comment-page-1/#comment-60904 Helen Dew Mon, 05 Jan 2009 01:49:13 +0000 http://transitionculture.org/?p=1167#comment-60904 John - I've only just discovered your excellent article, and the subsequent comments. I'm pleased to learn of the growing acceptance of the need to include the issue of democracy in the re-localisation agenda. Incidentally, you didn't include New Zealand in the list of countries that have adopted Transition Towns. The list can be seen at http://www.transitiontowns.org.nz/groups . I think you'll be impressed, given that we're a small country. Maybe being comparitively small is one of the reasons that TT has been so eagerly take up here! By the way - I'm delighted that the latest issue of FWR (147) - the first from the new editor Jon Hughes - includes articles on Transition Towns, Local Currencies, and, of course effective democracy, thereby promoting an understanding of the interconnectedness of these three issues. John – I’ve only just discovered your excellent article, and the subsequent comments. I’m pleased to learn of the growing acceptance of the need to include the issue of democracy in the re-localisation agenda.

Incidentally, you didn’t include New Zealand in the list of countries that have adopted Transition Towns.
The list can be seen at http://www.transitiontowns.org.nz/groups . I think you’ll be impressed, given that we’re a small country. Maybe being comparitively small is one of the reasons that TT has been so eagerly take up here!

By the way – I’m delighted that the latest issue of FWR (147) – the first from the new editor Jon Hughes – includes articles on Transition Towns, Local Currencies, and, of course effective democracy, thereby promoting an understanding of the interconnectedness of these three issues.

]]> By: So Long Fourth World Review http://transitionculture.org/2008/05/28/john-papworth-on-transition-from-fourth-world-quarterly-review/comment-page-1/#comment-58017 So Long Fourth World Review Wed, 25 Jun 2008 12:15:07 +0000 http://transitionculture.org/?p=1167#comment-58017 <p>[...] writing by John Papworth can be found here at Transition [...]</p> [...] writing by John Papworth can be found here at Transition [...]

]]> By: Linda Hull http://transitionculture.org/2008/05/28/john-papworth-on-transition-from-fourth-world-quarterly-review/comment-page-1/#comment-57748 Linda Hull Wed, 04 Jun 2008 21:20:39 +0000 http://transitionculture.org/?p=1167#comment-57748 <p>Many thanks to Noel, Reevesie and Andrew - will check out your links...</p> Many thanks to Noel, Reevesie and Andrew – will check out your links…

]]> By: Andrew http://transitionculture.org/2008/05/28/john-papworth-on-transition-from-fourth-world-quarterly-review/comment-page-1/#comment-57680 Andrew Thu, 29 May 2008 20:28:43 +0000 http://transitionculture.org/?p=1167#comment-57680 <p>Linda,</p> <p>Transition Forest www.transitionforest.org.uk and in particular Sue Clarke (contact details on website) has done some ground breaking work engaging with the Local Strategic Partnership and LDP and got Transition written into key elements of it along with jointly heading up funding applications with LA through SWRDA. Forest of Dean District Council now have Transition Model as part of their LSP approach!</p> <p>Andrew</p> Linda,

Transition Forest http://www.transitionforest.org.uk and in particular Sue Clarke (contact details on website) has done some ground breaking work engaging with the Local Strategic Partnership and LDP and got Transition written into key elements of it along with jointly heading up funding applications with LA through SWRDA. Forest of Dean District Council now have Transition Model as part of their LSP approach!

Andrew

]]> By: RS http://transitionculture.org/2008/05/28/john-papworth-on-transition-from-fourth-world-quarterly-review/comment-page-1/#comment-57674 RS Thu, 29 May 2008 15:35:52 +0000 http://transitionculture.org/?p=1167#comment-57674 <p>Even better if hauliers could demonstrate that they were not:</p> <p>picking up a load of onions in Spain to take to Wales, then hopping over to Norwich to pick up a load of onions to take to the Netherlands, where they pick up a load of onions to take to .... Spain</p> Even better if hauliers could demonstrate that they were not:

picking up a load of onions in Spain to take to Wales,
then hopping over to Norwich to pick up a load of onions to take to the Netherlands,
where they pick up a load of onions to take to …. Spain

]]> By: Neil L http://transitionculture.org/2008/05/28/john-papworth-on-transition-from-fourth-world-quarterly-review/comment-page-1/#comment-57671 Neil L Thu, 29 May 2008 10:52:34 +0000 http://transitionculture.org/?p=1167#comment-57671 <p>Excellent article so the question is either...</p> <p>When is our esteemed prime minister going to wake up and smell the roses and start planning strategically rather than the his actions of the last two days - firstly meetings with oil companies to get them to increase production in order to lower prices and secondly expansion of nuclear - what is going on!</p> <p>Or...</p> <p>When do we take back local control and democracy and have a say in what we want - off to my community council meeting on Monday to raise awareness of Transition and start the ball rolling in the Southside of Glasgow.</p> <p>Off on a tangent - maybe the road hauliers could get a tax break if they could demonstrate that what they were hauling was of use rather than cheap, imported stuff!</p> Excellent article so the question is either…

When is our esteemed prime minister going to wake up and smell the roses and start planning strategically rather than the his actions of the last two days – firstly meetings with oil companies to get them to increase production in order to lower prices and secondly expansion of nuclear – what is going on!

Or…

When do we take back local control and democracy and have a say in what we want – off to my community council meeting on Monday to raise awareness of Transition and start the ball rolling in the Southside of Glasgow.

Off on a tangent – maybe the road hauliers could get a tax break if they could demonstrate that what they were hauling was of use rather than cheap, imported stuff!

]]> By: Rob http://transitionculture.org/2008/05/28/john-papworth-on-transition-from-fourth-world-quarterly-review/comment-page-1/#comment-57667 Rob Thu, 29 May 2008 09:37:18 +0000 http://transitionculture.org/?p=1167#comment-57667 <p>You wouldn't be the first... (!)</p> You wouldn’t be the first… (!)

]]> By: Jo Whitmore http://transitionculture.org/2008/05/28/john-papworth-on-transition-from-fourth-world-quarterly-review/comment-page-1/#comment-57666 Jo Whitmore Wed, 28 May 2008 20:37:36 +0000 http://transitionculture.org/?p=1167#comment-57666 <p>Sorry Rob misspelled Hopkins</p> Sorry Rob misspelled Hopkins

]]> By: Jo Whitmore http://transitionculture.org/2008/05/28/john-papworth-on-transition-from-fourth-world-quarterly-review/comment-page-1/#comment-57665 Jo Whitmore Wed, 28 May 2008 20:30:17 +0000 http://transitionculture.org/?p=1167#comment-57665 <p>My "end of suburbia moment" came as I read Tim Flannery's book The Weather Makers. Soon afterwards I went to hear Mark Lynas talking about global warming in Church Stretton. By that point I was suffering from the anxiety which Rob Hoskins describes as "post petroleum stress disorder"-clammy hands and palpitations. What a relief to discover I that other people are already addressing these issues and that there is real HOPE on the horizon. When I have finished reading the Transition Handbook (p.135 so far),St George's Church Shrewsbury is going to hold an Awareness Raising Evening around the subject. I hope that we will become Transitional Zone SY3</p> My “end of suburbia moment” came as I read Tim Flannery’s book The Weather Makers. Soon afterwards I went to hear Mark Lynas talking about global warming in Church Stretton. By that point I was suffering from the anxiety which Rob Hoskins describes as “post petroleum stress disorder”-clammy hands and palpitations. What a relief to discover I that other people are already addressing these issues and that there is real HOPE on the horizon. When I have finished reading the Transition Handbook (p.135 so far),St George’s Church Shrewsbury is going to hold an Awareness Raising Evening around the subject. I hope that we will become Transitional Zone SY3

]]> By: Reevesie http://transitionculture.org/2008/05/28/john-papworth-on-transition-from-fourth-world-quarterly-review/comment-page-1/#comment-57662 Reevesie Wed, 28 May 2008 11:27:40 +0000 http://transitionculture.org/?p=1167#comment-57662 <p>http://transitiontowns.org/Leicester/Documents is the place to go.</p> http://transitiontowns.org/Leicester/Documents is the place to go.

]]> By: Reevesie http://transitionculture.org/2008/05/28/john-papworth-on-transition-from-fourth-world-quarterly-review/comment-page-1/#comment-57661 Reevesie Wed, 28 May 2008 11:25:38 +0000 http://transitionculture.org/?p=1167#comment-57661 <p>You can download Transition Leicester's response to the Local Development Framework consultation in our area on our website (in the Documents section).</p> <p>Also worth looking at our response to our city council's call for Big Ideas for the next 25 years - full of similar stuff (but with less of a focus on planning).</p> <ul> <li>Reevesie</li> </ul> You can download Transition Leicester’s response to the Local Development Framework consultation in our area on our website (in the Documents section).

Also worth looking at our response to our city council’s call for Big Ideas for the next 25 years – full of similar stuff (but with less of a focus on planning).

  • Reevesie
]]> By: Noel Longhurst http://transitionculture.org/2008/05/28/john-papworth-on-transition-from-fourth-world-quarterly-review/comment-page-1/#comment-57660 Noel Longhurst Wed, 28 May 2008 10:08:28 +0000 http://transitionculture.org/?p=1167#comment-57660 <p>Linda</p> <p>In Totnes a committed TTT sub-group put together a very thorough response to the LDF. Have a look here:</p> <p>http://totnes.transitionnetwork.org/buildingandhousing/dpd_home</p> <p>Cheers</p> <p>Noel</p> Linda

In Totnes a committed TTT sub-group put together a very thorough response to the LDF. Have a look here:

http://totnes.transitionnetwork.org/buildingandhousing/dpd_home

Cheers

Noel

]]> By: Linda Hull http://transitionculture.org/2008/05/28/john-papworth-on-transition-from-fourth-world-quarterly-review/comment-page-1/#comment-57659 Linda Hull Wed, 28 May 2008 09:51:43 +0000 http://transitionculture.org/?p=1167#comment-57659 <p>Me too!</p> <p>I can recommend standing for town or parish council. It's a great way to find things out and change the conversation of those meetings all over the country. Bring on those by-elections and stand!</p> <p>Right now I'm searching for examples of Transition responses to the Local Development Framework - can anyone help, fairly quickly? A once in 20 year opportunity to make a loud announcement about the need to embed Transition principles into every policy going forward. Is it happening in your neck of the woods?</p> <p>Glastonbury Town Councillor</p> Me too!

I can recommend standing for town or parish council. It’s a great way to find things out and change the conversation of those meetings all over the country. Bring on those by-elections and stand!

Right now I’m searching for examples of Transition responses to the Local Development Framework – can anyone help, fairly quickly? A once in 20 year opportunity to make a loud announcement about the need to embed Transition principles into every policy going forward. Is it happening in your neck of the woods?

Glastonbury Town Councillor

]]> By: Darren Woodiwiss http://transitionculture.org/2008/05/28/john-papworth-on-transition-from-fourth-world-quarterly-review/comment-page-1/#comment-57658 Darren Woodiwiss Wed, 28 May 2008 09:24:27 +0000 http://transitionculture.org/?p=1167#comment-57658 <p>Excellent, I will stand as a member of the transition Party... should be able to Save £500 by 2009 for my deposit.</p> <p>Anyone else :o)</p> Excellent, I will stand as a member of the transition Party… should be able to Save £500 by 2009 for my deposit.

Anyone else :o )

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