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		<title>By: wayne rhyne</title>
		<link>http://transitionculture.org/2007/10/17/the-single-most-depressing-thing-i-have-ever-read/comment-page-1/#comment-57245</link>
		<dc:creator>wayne rhyne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 01:35:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;this entire melt down, is only tem, we are comeing out of the last ice age, we have been headed this way for 5,000 years,this melt down or natural melting, will end up filling the oceans with fresh water, its colder, then the salt water, when we make ice cream we add salt to the ice, too frezee, thus ice cream, on a hot day, with thousands of tons of cold fresh water, the salt water will, be forced to the serface, this, holds the salt water closer to the surface, the salt crystals reflect the sun lite,the colder salt water, starts the reverse ice world.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this entire melt down, is only tem, we are comeing out of the last ice age, we have been headed this way for 5,000 years,this melt down or natural melting, will end up filling the oceans with fresh water, its colder, then the salt water, when we make ice cream we add salt to the ice, too frezee, thus ice cream, on a hot day, with thousands of tons of cold fresh water, the salt water will, be forced to the serface, this, holds the salt water closer to the surface, the salt crystals reflect the sun lite,the colder salt water, starts the reverse ice world.</p>
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		<title>By: joe</title>
		<link>http://transitionculture.org/2007/10/17/the-single-most-depressing-thing-i-have-ever-read/comment-page-1/#comment-57206</link>
		<dc:creator>joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 10:09:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The single most depressing idea I have ever had is this:  if the scientists are right, we&#039;ve totally screwed the planet.  And given the slow uptake of any life-changing reduction activities (beyond those which are so small as to be rather laughable), even if everyone who reads this does all they can, the planet is still going to change.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;But the really scary thing is that nobody seems to be talking about or planning for a changed climate future, so it seems like we might very well get there totally unprepared.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Given that &#039;we&#039; who are within the top 10% richest in the world are most of the problem, the best solution might just be for us to stop existing - which at least would allow everyone else resources to use.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The single most depressing idea I have ever had is this:  if the scientists are right, we&#8217;ve totally screwed the planet.  And given the slow uptake of any life-changing reduction activities (beyond those which are so small as to be rather laughable), even if everyone who reads this does all they can, the planet is still going to change.</p>
<p>But the really scary thing is that nobody seems to be talking about or planning for a changed climate future, so it seems like we might very well get there totally unprepared.</p>
<p>Given that &#8216;we&#8217; who are within the top 10% richest in the world are most of the problem, the best solution might just be for us to stop existing &#8211; which at least would allow everyone else resources to use.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 01:05:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;ps, im actually a entering graduate student in the biomedical sciences and a scientist in training.  you shouldn&#039;t just take all data and reports for what they say....especially when there is an agenda at hand.  not saying there isn&#039;t climate change and that we shouldn&#039;t do anything about it, just that you need to think more critically about this and NOT get any info from blogs!  Even the official sites such as the IPCC or this &quot;big melt&quot; report you need to think more critically about.  the name itself from this report implies to me that it is agenda driven not pure science driven. global warming could be real but there is more uncertainty than you realize and it is so much more COMPLICATED than you think. this society and the media are completely butchering real science and a lot of scientists are aggravated about it!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ps, im actually a entering graduate student in the biomedical sciences and a scientist in training.  you shouldn&#8217;t just take all data and reports for what they say&#8230;.especially when there is an agenda at hand.  not saying there isn&#8217;t climate change and that we shouldn&#8217;t do anything about it, just that you need to think more critically about this and NOT get any info from blogs!  Even the official sites such as the IPCC or this &#8220;big melt&#8221; report you need to think more critically about.  the name itself from this report implies to me that it is agenda driven not pure science driven. global warming could be real but there is more uncertainty than you realize and it is so much more COMPLICATED than you think. this society and the media are completely butchering real science and a lot of scientists are aggravated about it!</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 00:53:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;dude,&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;ive read the IPCC reports and ive done a LOT of research on the actual primary research articles written by scientists and there is no validity to the claims you are making up there. wtf man. there does appear to be warming based on data in align with rising CO2 levels but there is more uncertainty in this realm of climate change then anything else.  Oh yeah, and the IPCC along with many many scientists and primary research articles i have read from the actual scientists suggest that the antarctic has shown NO significant decrease in ice over the years.  They have found other data to suggest global warming but the antarctic is NOT one of them.&lt;/p&gt;
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<p>ive read the IPCC reports and ive done a LOT of research on the actual primary research articles written by scientists and there is no validity to the claims you are making up there. wtf man. there does appear to be warming based on data in align with rising CO2 levels but there is more uncertainty in this realm of climate change then anything else.  Oh yeah, and the IPCC along with many many scientists and primary research articles i have read from the actual scientists suggest that the antarctic has shown NO significant decrease in ice over the years.  They have found other data to suggest global warming but the antarctic is NOT one of them.</p>
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		<title>By: Big Fires,Big Melt &#171; Moon Dreams &#38; Day Beams</title>
		<link>http://transitionculture.org/2007/10/17/the-single-most-depressing-thing-i-have-ever-read/comment-page-1/#comment-52902</link>
		<dc:creator>Big Fires,Big Melt &#171; Moon Dreams &#38; Day Beams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2007 06:12:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] makes a point of posting positive, action-oriented info on his blog, which is why I read it. He is active internationally in helping communities prepare for peak oil [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>By: La grande fonte &#171; Nos modernitudes</title>
		<link>http://transitionculture.org/2007/10/17/the-single-most-depressing-thing-i-have-ever-read/comment-page-1/#comment-52858</link>
		<dc:creator>La grande fonte &#171; Nos modernitudes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 19:28:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] [TransitionCulture]Â  Yesterday morning I read Carbon Equityâ€™s The Big Melt report which is basically a review of all the literature and studies looking at what happened to the Arctic ice this summer. It does not make for comfortable reading, and indeed it adds enormous urgency to to need to reduce emissions. It argues that to speak of 2 degrees being a safe threshold is nonsense, that we havenâ€™t yet reached 1 degree, but already the Arctic ice is melting 100 years ahead of when the IPCC predicted it would. [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>By: minktoast.net</title>
		<link>http://transitionculture.org/2007/10/17/the-single-most-depressing-thing-i-have-ever-read/comment-page-1/#comment-52816</link>
		<dc:creator>minktoast.net</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 09:23:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] a lot of this stuff out there. but heinberg for says it best. my friends rob and graham have covered similar ground in slightly less depth.)     No Comments so far  Leave a [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>By: Anybody going to watch Planet in Peril tonight? - SpartanTailgate.com - Michigan State Spartans Forums</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anybody going to watch Planet in Peril tonight? - SpartanTailgate.com - Michigan State Spartans Forums</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 12:53:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] is gonna get Wells-ed, anyway, but I thought this was interesting. The Single Most Depressing Thing I Have Ever Read. » Transition Culture  Global warming is going to **** up your kids. Peak oil is going to **** up you. Peak Oil: Life [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Dorothea</title>
		<link>http://transitionculture.org/2007/10/17/the-single-most-depressing-thing-i-have-ever-read/comment-page-1/#comment-52696</link>
		<dc:creator>Dorothea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 21:41:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Tom - Paul Kingsnorth and the last 4 of his 7 comments there (so far) have got it spot on. Kingsnorth is, eloquently as ever, verbalising what many people have been mulling over for ages. Peak oil and climate change could be the only things powerful enough to check the reinforcing feedback between human population growth and the voracious industrial monster.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Some people take exception to the idea that human numbers are a problem, which is sheer wilful blindness really, as everyone likes to have space. it&#039;s no accident that poor people are forced to live in overcrowded places, whereas those who can afford it buy bigger houses in spacious green locations.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;http://www.paulkingsnorth.net/2007/10/inhumanity-is-good-for-you.html&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom &#8211; Paul Kingsnorth and the last 4 of his 7 comments there (so far) have got it spot on. Kingsnorth is, eloquently as ever, verbalising what many people have been mulling over for ages. Peak oil and climate change could be the only things powerful enough to check the reinforcing feedback between human population growth and the voracious industrial monster.</p>
<p>Some people take exception to the idea that human numbers are a problem, which is sheer wilful blindness really, as everyone likes to have space. it&#8217;s no accident that poor people are forced to live in overcrowded places, whereas those who can afford it buy bigger houses in spacious green locations.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 19:26:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Sea level rise will be the only thing that removes the final klingons of denial. I live on a coast where only a modest rise will displace millions, and flood the best farmland we have. The worried talk of inevitable inundation is actually on everyone&#039;s minds and lips here now, so it&#039;s no surprise that the most active people at hammering the message of the Big Melt into the heads of inland politicians are those with literally everything to lose. Carbon Equity sounds great, but is an ideal concept largely over-ridden by the rude realities of geography.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sea level rise will be the only thing that removes the final klingons of denial. I live on a coast where only a modest rise will displace millions, and flood the best farmland we have. The worried talk of inevitable inundation is actually on everyone&#8217;s minds and lips here now, so it&#8217;s no surprise that the most active people at hammering the message of the Big Melt into the heads of inland politicians are those with literally everything to lose. Carbon Equity sounds great, but is an ideal concept largely over-ridden by the rude realities of geography.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 17:12:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Yes, chilling news indeed. Reading this report sparked me to write a letter I&#039;ve been mulling over for a while - sent to New Scientist magazine, but also to different places on the web.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&quot;Fossil fuels should stay underground&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Let&#039;s face it: the Kyoto Protocol has been a dismal failure. Riddled with loopholes like &quot;carbon credits&quot; that let rich countries off the hook from cutting back their domestic emissions, it was nonetheless decried as unfair by big polluters in those same countries, who lobbied against it so well that it took 7 years to be ratified by a quorum of signatory nations. Even then, its emissions targets are a fraction of those needed to meet its stated goal of &quot;preventing dangerous anthropogenic interference with the climate system&quot;. With Kyoto being renegotiated amid dire news about the already-observed and projected effects of climate change, a fundamental rethink is imperative.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Kyoto stands in total contrast to its forerunner, the Montreal Protocol, which former UN Secretary-General Kofi Annan reportedly called &quot;Perhaps the single most successful international agreement to date&quot;. Indeed, by eliminating ozone-depleting chemicals which are also greenhouse gases, the Montreal Protocol has actually had more impact on climate change than several Kyotos (&quot;Plugging the ozone hole cut global warming too&quot;, New Scientist, 05 March 2007).&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;One critical difference between the two protocols - which may partly account for this difference - is the fact that Montreal regulates &lt;em&gt;production&lt;/em&gt;, not &lt;em&gt;emission&lt;/em&gt;, of CFCs. Imagine a Montreal-style treaty which allows industry to produce CFCs in unlimited quantities, but makes governments responsible for ensuring that they don&#039;t get released into the atmosphere: doubtless such a treaty would rival Kyoto in its worthlessness. Montreal works because it targets the manufacturing of CFCs, the only stage of the process where regulation can be effective. Even so, continued manufacture of illegal CFCs represents a serious problem (&quot;Illegal CFCs imperil the ozone layer&quot;, New Scientist, 17 December 2005.)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Kyoto, on the other hand, set itself an impossible goal: to regulate the entire carbon cycle of the planet Earth, a vastly complex and often poorly-understood set of both natural and artificial processes; and to do so at the level of &lt;em&gt;emissions&lt;/em&gt;, a globally distributed anti-bottleneck in the system. Not since the days of King Canute - or the Indiana House of Representatives&#039; 1897 attempt to legislate for the value of pi - has there been such a hubristic mismatch between governments&#039; ambitions and their capabilities.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;To successfully halt climate change - and failure to do so is a prospect awful to contemplate - government action must be clear, effective and foolproof. Using Montreal as a model, an effective successor to Kyoto could be a treaty which regulates countries&#039; rights to &lt;em&gt;manufacture&lt;/em&gt; the substances mainly responsible for climate change: in effect, mandating substantial cuts in worldwide extraction of fossil fuels. This would not correct all the anthropogenic imbalances in the Earth&#039;s climate system - but it would deal with the lion&#039;s share and, more to the point, unlike Kyoto, it would be clear, unequivocal, and probably work. Other treaties on other aspects of the problem might also be necessary - why should one document be expected to do everything?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Of course this would be difficult to achieve, since it amounts to mandating a global economic crisis - or if you believe the predictors of &quot;peak oil&quot;, exacerbating one which is already upon us.  But the effects of such a crisis would be minor compared with the likely impacts of climate change, and there is at least one example - Cuba - of a nation that has successfully navigated major cuts in fossil fuel use, while largely maintaining its quality of life (&quot;World failing on sustainable development,&quot; New Scientist, 03 October 2007). This is largely a matter of people&#039;s willingness to work together for sustainability - and we are more likely to do so if we voluntarily jump off the oil cliff than if we are pushed.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;What is necessary, then, is that enough fossil-fuel-producing nations should be convinced that it is in their own (and the world&#039;s) best interest to become fossil-fuel-&lt;em&gt;stewarding&lt;/em&gt; nations instead: keeping their reserves underground where they are now, to be extracted later when more is known about how much we can safely burn, and how best to use it. In fact, given rising trends in oil prices, this approach may be economically justified for the countries in question, quite apart from considerations of climate change; or there may be climate-concerned investors who are willing to pay countries to artificially limit their production, either buying the oil, gas or coal itself (with the intent of leaving it in the ground), or purchasing options on its production that expire at a certain date in the future. But whatever happens, citizens concerned about climate change need to wake up to the fact that we can&#039;t afford to rely on scientifically dubious carbon offsetting or sequestration, or on bending over backwards to limit our own emissions in the naive hope that the rest of the world will follow suit. The only safe place for the world&#039;s remaining stocks of fossil fuels is to stay where they belong - underground.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Robert Alcock
Bilbao, Spain&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, chilling news indeed. Reading this report sparked me to write a letter I&#8217;ve been mulling over for a while &#8211; sent to New Scientist magazine, but also to different places on the web.</p>
<p>&#8220;Fossil fuels should stay underground&#8221;</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s face it: the Kyoto Protocol has been a dismal failure. Riddled with loopholes like &#8220;carbon credits&#8221; that let rich countries off the hook from cutting back their domestic emissions, it was nonetheless decried as unfair by big polluters in those same countries, who lobbied against it so well that it took 7 years to be ratified by a quorum of signatory nations. Even then, its emissions targets are a fraction of those needed to meet its stated goal of &#8220;preventing dangerous anthropogenic interference with the climate system&#8221;. With Kyoto being renegotiated amid dire news about the already-observed and projected effects of climate change, a fundamental rethink is imperative.</p>
<p>Kyoto stands in total contrast to its forerunner, the Montreal Protocol, which former UN Secretary-General Kofi Annan reportedly called &#8220;Perhaps the single most successful international agreement to date&#8221;. Indeed, by eliminating ozone-depleting chemicals which are also greenhouse gases, the Montreal Protocol has actually had more impact on climate change than several Kyotos (&#8221;Plugging the ozone hole cut global warming too&#8221;, New Scientist, 05 March 2007).</p>
<p>One critical difference between the two protocols &#8211; which may partly account for this difference &#8211; is the fact that Montreal regulates <em>production</em>, not <em>emission</em>, of CFCs. Imagine a Montreal-style treaty which allows industry to produce CFCs in unlimited quantities, but makes governments responsible for ensuring that they don&#8217;t get released into the atmosphere: doubtless such a treaty would rival Kyoto in its worthlessness. Montreal works because it targets the manufacturing of CFCs, the only stage of the process where regulation can be effective. Even so, continued manufacture of illegal CFCs represents a serious problem (&#8221;Illegal CFCs imperil the ozone layer&#8221;, New Scientist, 17 December 2005.)</p>
<p>Kyoto, on the other hand, set itself an impossible goal: to regulate the entire carbon cycle of the planet Earth, a vastly complex and often poorly-understood set of both natural and artificial processes; and to do so at the level of <em>emissions</em>, a globally distributed anti-bottleneck in the system. Not since the days of King Canute &#8211; or the Indiana House of Representatives&#8217; 1897 attempt to legislate for the value of pi &#8211; has there been such a hubristic mismatch between governments&#8217; ambitions and their capabilities.</p>
<p>To successfully halt climate change &#8211; and failure to do so is a prospect awful to contemplate &#8211; government action must be clear, effective and foolproof. Using Montreal as a model, an effective successor to Kyoto could be a treaty which regulates countries&#8217; rights to <em>manufacture</em> the substances mainly responsible for climate change: in effect, mandating substantial cuts in worldwide extraction of fossil fuels. This would not correct all the anthropogenic imbalances in the Earth&#8217;s climate system &#8211; but it would deal with the lion&#8217;s share and, more to the point, unlike Kyoto, it would be clear, unequivocal, and probably work. Other treaties on other aspects of the problem might also be necessary &#8211; why should one document be expected to do everything?</p>
<p>Of course this would be difficult to achieve, since it amounts to mandating a global economic crisis &#8211; or if you believe the predictors of &#8220;peak oil&#8221;, exacerbating one which is already upon us.  But the effects of such a crisis would be minor compared with the likely impacts of climate change, and there is at least one example &#8211; Cuba &#8211; of a nation that has successfully navigated major cuts in fossil fuel use, while largely maintaining its quality of life (&#8221;World failing on sustainable development,&#8221; New Scientist, 03 October 2007). This is largely a matter of people&#8217;s willingness to work together for sustainability &#8211; and we are more likely to do so if we voluntarily jump off the oil cliff than if we are pushed.</p>
<p>What is necessary, then, is that enough fossil-fuel-producing nations should be convinced that it is in their own (and the world&#8217;s) best interest to become fossil-fuel-<em>stewarding</em> nations instead: keeping their reserves underground where they are now, to be extracted later when more is known about how much we can safely burn, and how best to use it. In fact, given rising trends in oil prices, this approach may be economically justified for the countries in question, quite apart from considerations of climate change; or there may be climate-concerned investors who are willing to pay countries to artificially limit their production, either buying the oil, gas or coal itself (with the intent of leaving it in the ground), or purchasing options on its production that expire at a certain date in the future. But whatever happens, citizens concerned about climate change need to wake up to the fact that we can&#8217;t afford to rely on scientifically dubious carbon offsetting or sequestration, or on bending over backwards to limit our own emissions in the naive hope that the rest of the world will follow suit. The only safe place for the world&#8217;s remaining stocks of fossil fuels is to stay where they belong &#8211; underground.</p>
<p>Robert Alcock<br />
Bilbao, Spain</p>
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		<title>By: John Hanks</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Hanks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 16:55:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The political stresses of global warming may lead to a nuclear exchange.  That is the way a species of crooks, suckers, and lazy cowards meets its end.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The political stresses of global warming may lead to a nuclear exchange.  That is the way a species of crooks, suckers, and lazy cowards meets its end.</p>
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		<title>By: KevO</title>
		<link>http://transitionculture.org/2007/10/17/the-single-most-depressing-thing-i-have-ever-read/comment-page-1/#comment-52660</link>
		<dc:creator>KevO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Oct 2007 12:15:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;please amend!
sorry that should have been
http://www.peakoil.com/fortopic33042-0-asc-0.html&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>please amend!<br />
sorry that should have been<br />
<a href="http://www.peakoil.com/fortopic33042-0-asc-0.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.peakoil.com/fortopic33042-0-asc-0.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: KevO</title>
		<link>http://transitionculture.org/2007/10/17/the-single-most-depressing-thing-i-have-ever-read/comment-page-1/#comment-52659</link>
		<dc:creator>KevO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Oct 2007 12:12:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hi, I posted this to Peak Oil.com
It has rattled cages.
On going live responses viewable at
http://www.peakoil.com/fortopic33042-0-asc-15.html&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, I posted this to Peak Oil.com<br />
It has rattled cages.<br />
On going live responses viewable at<br />
<a href="http://www.peakoil.com/fortopic33042-0-asc-15.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.peakoil.com/fortopic33042-0-asc-15.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Friday Linkfest 15 - the &#8220;We&#8217;re All Gonna Die&#8221; Edition &#187; Celsias</title>
		<link>http://transitionculture.org/2007/10/17/the-single-most-depressing-thing-i-have-ever-read/comment-page-1/#comment-52650</link>
		<dc:creator>Friday Linkfest 15 - the &#8220;We&#8217;re All Gonna Die&#8221; Edition &#187; Celsias</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 08:37:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] Big Melt (PDF) Carbon Equity&#8217;s report, summarized here, points to a climate sensitivity much higher than expected and disastrous consequences for Arctic [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Big Melt (PDF) Carbon Equity&#8217;s report, summarized here, points to a climate sensitivity much higher than expected and disastrous consequences for Arctic [...]</p>
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