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	<title>Comments on: Urban Heat and Rural Heat &#8211; by Simon Fairlie</title>
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		<title>By: Shane Miller</title>
		<link>http://transitionculture.org/2007/05/11/urban-heat-and-rural-heat-by-simon-fairlie/comment-page-1/#comment-57210</link>
		<dc:creator>Shane Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 12:50:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hi Mike,
In my experience with Heat Recovery Ventilation you can be assured of nothing other than optimum indoor air quality. Infact the entire purpose of installing HRV is to 100% ensure that the indoor climate is maintained as a healthy, comfortable environment. I believe there is noting that you could make a better investment in than an airtight super insulated structure.
Every project we&#039;ve examined has pointed to high quality workmanship &amp; alignment with the passive house standard as the optimum build strategy.
www.qualityhrv.ie
Shane&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Mike,<br />
In my experience with Heat Recovery Ventilation you can be assured of nothing other than optimum indoor air quality. Infact the entire purpose of installing HRV is to 100% ensure that the indoor climate is maintained as a healthy, comfortable environment. I believe there is noting that you could make a better investment in than an airtight super insulated structure.<br />
Every project we&#8217;ve examined has pointed to high quality workmanship &amp; alignment with the passive house standard as the optimum build strategy.<br />
<a href="http://www.qualityhrv.ie" rel="nofollow">http://www.qualityhrv.ie</a><br />
Shane</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Hall</title>
		<link>http://transitionculture.org/2007/05/11/urban-heat-and-rural-heat-by-simon-fairlie/comment-page-1/#comment-50338</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Hall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2007 01:16:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Tom
I would suggest you consider something a little more of a compromise. Something akin to what i&#039;ve just built, details below. I am very happy that the result is both very sustainable &amp; good to live in.
Often overlooked is the trade off between super insulation &amp; the need for airtightness and heat recovery ventilation, neither of which offering optimum air quality. The energy needed to run heat recovery vent fans can be substantial. Also, to build to this high specification is usually much more expensive, maybe that money would be better invested in photovoltaics or wind or extra land planted with trees ?
Which brings me to my 2nd point, which is to emphasise a one already made - there is really no &#039;one size fits all&#039; - location/ materials (for both &#039;build&#039; &amp; subsequent &#039;use&#039;)/ budget / lifestyle are so unique to each of us. Overly rigid planning &#039;rules&#039; &amp; inflexible &#039;planners&#039; make it difficult here for the various &#039;sustainable&#039; options to be developed. I have built a wooden house of 84sqm (900sqft) to slightly better than current Irish regs (tho&#039; implemented, in practice, to much higher spec). It has about 8 sqm of Sth facing 1.1 u-value double glazing, argon filled &#039;soft&#039; coat. Tho&#039; we have above ave. cloud for this lattitude. Airtightness is reasonable. I&#039;m using about 4,500Kwh/year Airtricity for space heating, but plan to install a small woodburner, buffer tank/thermal store &amp; my own 2.5Kw wind generator + ~4sqm of solar thermal. This should make it almost energy self-sufficient, without needing much wood at all. I have 2 acres bordered with trees but won&#039;t have much to burn for some years. I calculate that my house &amp; foundation (not including roof material, 2nd hand tin) has caused ~ 420 kg of CO2, but is sequestering (storing) about 2,000 kg. (Maybe this is a better use for wood than burning it ?)
Hope that&#039;s of some use to you.
Mike&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom<br />
I would suggest you consider something a little more of a compromise. Something akin to what i&#8217;ve just built, details below. I am very happy that the result is both very sustainable &amp; good to live in.<br />
Often overlooked is the trade off between super insulation &amp; the need for airtightness and heat recovery ventilation, neither of which offering optimum air quality. The energy needed to run heat recovery vent fans can be substantial. Also, to build to this high specification is usually much more expensive, maybe that money would be better invested in photovoltaics or wind or extra land planted with trees ?<br />
Which brings me to my 2nd point, which is to emphasise a one already made &#8211; there is really no &#8216;one size fits all&#8217; &#8211; location/ materials (for both &#8216;build&#8217; &amp; subsequent &#8216;use&#8217;)/ budget / lifestyle are so unique to each of us. Overly rigid planning &#8216;rules&#8217; &amp; inflexible &#8216;planners&#8217; make it difficult here for the various &#8216;sustainable&#8217; options to be developed. I have built a wooden house of 84sqm (900sqft) to slightly better than current Irish regs (tho&#8217; implemented, in practice, to much higher spec). It has about 8 sqm of Sth facing 1.1 u-value double glazing, argon filled &#8216;soft&#8217; coat. Tho&#8217; we have above ave. cloud for this lattitude. Airtightness is reasonable. I&#8217;m using about 4,500Kwh/year Airtricity for space heating, but plan to install a small woodburner, buffer tank/thermal store &amp; my own 2.5Kw wind generator + ~4sqm of solar thermal. This should make it almost energy self-sufficient, without needing much wood at all. I have 2 acres bordered with trees but won&#8217;t have much to burn for some years. I calculate that my house &amp; foundation (not including roof material, 2nd hand tin) has caused ~ 420 kg of CO2, but is sequestering (storing) about 2,000 kg. (Maybe this is a better use for wood than burning it ?)<br />
Hope that&#8217;s of some use to you.<br />
Mike</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Atkins</title>
		<link>http://transitionculture.org/2007/05/11/urban-heat-and-rural-heat-by-simon-fairlie/comment-page-1/#comment-50270</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Atkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2007 10:52:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Interesting article by Simon as always - thanks for posting it Rob.  It&#039;s interesting to me as a person about to embark on a triple glazed, no cold-bridges, highly insulated rural house project.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I too like to have the windows open as much as possible - but on a cold windy wet winter&#039;s day I&#039;ll be glad to be able to &#039;batten down the hatches&#039;.  We also have abundant supplies of firewood surrounding us.   We&#039;ll be installing a small wood burning stove for winter hot water and &#039;for the soul&#039;.  But I&#039;m keen to burn as little wood as possible.  OK, burning wood &#039;warms you twice&#039; but I really do have better things to do than felling, chopping, storing and burning any more wood than I have to. And if I think that now - then I know I&#039;ll think it when I&#039;m 70! We&#039;ll be managing our woodlands for food products, wildlife and timber.  Any surplus firewood will, I&#039;m sure, be useful to someone in the nearby village.  I&#039;d rather sell or barter this wood than send it up my own chimney simply because I didn&#039;t make an effort to build carefully.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Our home will have considerably more embodied energy than Simon&#039;s - but I&#039;m hopeful it&#039;ll last 300 years and be occupied by several generations.  Thus sharing the initial &#039;costs&#039;.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I agree that people shouldn&#039;t be forced into expensive building codes.  But I don&#039;t agree that rural housing shouldn&#039;t be built to as high an insulation standard as possible.  Governments should subsidise the insulation thus making it affordable to all.  We&#039;ll all benefit then as there will be more wood to go round.  Wasting energy is after all - wasting energy!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting article by Simon as always &#8211; thanks for posting it Rob.  It&#8217;s interesting to me as a person about to embark on a triple glazed, no cold-bridges, highly insulated rural house project.</p>
<p>I too like to have the windows open as much as possible &#8211; but on a cold windy wet winter&#8217;s day I&#8217;ll be glad to be able to &#8216;batten down the hatches&#8217;.  We also have abundant supplies of firewood surrounding us.   We&#8217;ll be installing a small wood burning stove for winter hot water and &#8216;for the soul&#8217;.  But I&#8217;m keen to burn as little wood as possible.  OK, burning wood &#8216;warms you twice&#8217; but I really do have better things to do than felling, chopping, storing and burning any more wood than I have to. And if I think that now &#8211; then I know I&#8217;ll think it when I&#8217;m 70! We&#8217;ll be managing our woodlands for food products, wildlife and timber.  Any surplus firewood will, I&#8217;m sure, be useful to someone in the nearby village.  I&#8217;d rather sell or barter this wood than send it up my own chimney simply because I didn&#8217;t make an effort to build carefully.</p>
<p>Our home will have considerably more embodied energy than Simon&#8217;s &#8211; but I&#8217;m hopeful it&#8217;ll last 300 years and be occupied by several generations.  Thus sharing the initial &#8216;costs&#8217;.</p>
<p>I agree that people shouldn&#8217;t be forced into expensive building codes.  But I don&#8217;t agree that rural housing shouldn&#8217;t be built to as high an insulation standard as possible.  Governments should subsidise the insulation thus making it affordable to all.  We&#8217;ll all benefit then as there will be more wood to go round.  Wasting energy is after all &#8211; wasting energy!</p>
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		<title>By: Jan Steinman</title>
		<link>http://transitionculture.org/2007/05/11/urban-heat-and-rural-heat-by-simon-fairlie/comment-page-1/#comment-50265</link>
		<dc:creator>Jan Steinman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 May 2007 15:13:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I do fear for everyone&#039;s lungs if the entire industrial world switches to wood heat. I&#039;m battling hypocrisy here, as I heat with wood, but it seems to be ideally suited to rural areas, and poorly suited for urban areas.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;This brings up the basic problem with building codes: they are &quot;one size fits all&quot; solutions. Here on a rural farm on an island off the coast of British Columbia, Canada, we are located within the Capital Regional District, and are subject to the same building regulations as the capital city of BC, a city of some 100,000 people!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;So I think Monbiot and Rob each have it half-right: the real patter we need to capture here is that such things must be &lt;i&gt;locally appropriate,&lt;/i&gt; rather than imposed from afar.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do fear for everyone&#8217;s lungs if the entire industrial world switches to wood heat. I&#8217;m battling hypocrisy here, as I heat with wood, but it seems to be ideally suited to rural areas, and poorly suited for urban areas.</p>
<p>This brings up the basic problem with building codes: they are &#8220;one size fits all&#8221; solutions. Here on a rural farm on an island off the coast of British Columbia, Canada, we are located within the Capital Regional District, and are subject to the same building regulations as the capital city of BC, a city of some 100,000 people!</p>
<p>So I think Monbiot and Rob each have it half-right: the real patter we need to capture here is that such things must be <i>locally appropriate,</i> rather than imposed from afar.</p>
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		<title>By: Graham</title>
		<link>http://transitionculture.org/2007/05/11/urban-heat-and-rural-heat-by-simon-fairlie/comment-page-1/#comment-50251</link>
		<dc:creator>Graham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 May 2007 09:22:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;That is a really good piece. Particularly interesting to me as I am just researching &quot;Sustainable Housing Criteria&quot; or codes of practice that could be used to define &quot;sustainable housing&quot;. This is in connection with the Carberry Housing project and the Unicorn Foundation in West Cork. As soon as you start however, you come up against the same issues Simon has raised: what is sustainable in one place may not be in another, and it very much depends on lifestyle, employment etc.- how far do people drive to work? Will the design of the house be adabtable for different numbers of occupants over its lifetime? I have always felt for example that all new houses should be constructed with zone 1 gardens in mind, conservatories and walls for climbing plants, larders and food stores etc.
Rob has written a section in the back of the Kinsale Energy Descent Plan which offers some proposals for a Sustainable Housing Charter; does anyone else have any links to projects with charters or codes on this?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is a really good piece. Particularly interesting to me as I am just researching &#8220;Sustainable Housing Criteria&#8221; or codes of practice that could be used to define &#8220;sustainable housing&#8221;. This is in connection with the Carberry Housing project and the Unicorn Foundation in West Cork. As soon as you start however, you come up against the same issues Simon has raised: what is sustainable in one place may not be in another, and it very much depends on lifestyle, employment etc.- how far do people drive to work? Will the design of the house be adabtable for different numbers of occupants over its lifetime? I have always felt for example that all new houses should be constructed with zone 1 gardens in mind, conservatories and walls for climbing plants, larders and food stores etc.<br />
Rob has written a section in the back of the Kinsale Energy Descent Plan which offers some proposals for a Sustainable Housing Charter; does anyone else have any links to projects with charters or codes on this?</p>
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