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		<title>By: Mandy</title>
		<link>http://transitionculture.org/2006/11/24/thank-god-for-washing-machines/comment-page-1/#comment-55214</link>
		<dc:creator>Mandy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2008 22:17:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Personally if I had to get rid of all modern appliances except one I would keep the washing machine.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;But prior to the washing machine, in warmer countries at least, people went to the river to wash their clothes, or to a communal, purpose built washing place. There they would find either the peace and tranquillity of nature or companionship with the other people doing their washing.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;This is not to romanticise the process, I know only too well how much your knuckles can ache with the cold from rinsing clothes in river water. My point is that by making life more comfortable in one respect we have lost some of it’s richness - which on some level we need to be fully alive&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personally if I had to get rid of all modern appliances except one I would keep the washing machine.</p>
<p>But prior to the washing machine, in warmer countries at least, people went to the river to wash their clothes, or to a communal, purpose built washing place. There they would find either the peace and tranquillity of nature or companionship with the other people doing their washing.</p>
<p>This is not to romanticise the process, I know only too well how much your knuckles can ache with the cold from rinsing clothes in river water. My point is that by making life more comfortable in one respect we have lost some of it’s richness &#8211; which on some level we need to be fully alive</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Atkins</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Atkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 21:22:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Just had a discussion with my Dad and we concluded that the transistor was probably the most important invention of the 20th century.  This is backed up by the consensus on &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transistor#Importance&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Wikipedia&#039;s entry&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just had a discussion with my Dad and we concluded that the transistor was probably the most important invention of the 20th century.  This is backed up by the consensus on <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transistor#Importance" rel="nofollow">Wikipedia&#8217;s entry</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Kathy Mcmahon</title>
		<link>http://transitionculture.org/2006/11/24/thank-god-for-washing-machines/comment-page-1/#comment-6885</link>
		<dc:creator>Kathy Mcmahon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Dec 2006 12:35:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;As least in my readings, Rob, you are right.  Women hated laundry more than any other household task, and anyone with a few pennies to rub together, &quot;sent out&quot; at least some of it, like the bedlinens, first to individual women, and later to laundries.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;It was a grueling job, requiring one to lug in loads of water from the well, heat it, and I believe, if my memory serves, it took something like 7 loads of water for each load to &quot;do it right&quot; including blueing and starch, if you followed the household gurus of the day..  It took an entire day, here in the US, Mondays, and we ate the Sunday left-overs.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Public laundries were quite energy efficient, I understand, but just didnt&#039; make the appliance manufacturers as wealthy as making sure each home had their own, and so it was capitalism, not energy efficiency, that guided that choice.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;One thing women of that era had, however, was the ability to chat with each other, on Mondays, over the &quot;clothes lines,&quot; or while lugging yet another pail of water into the house.  That stopped when we could do laundry &#039;any day&#039; and in the privacy of our own homes.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Still, it wouldn&#039;t be the first appliance I&#039;d part with.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As least in my readings, Rob, you are right.  Women hated laundry more than any other household task, and anyone with a few pennies to rub together, &#8220;sent out&#8221; at least some of it, like the bedlinens, first to individual women, and later to laundries.</p>
<p>It was a grueling job, requiring one to lug in loads of water from the well, heat it, and I believe, if my memory serves, it took something like 7 loads of water for each load to &#8220;do it right&#8221; including blueing and starch, if you followed the household gurus of the day..  It took an entire day, here in the US, Mondays, and we ate the Sunday left-overs.</p>
<p>Public laundries were quite energy efficient, I understand, but just didnt&#8217; make the appliance manufacturers as wealthy as making sure each home had their own, and so it was capitalism, not energy efficiency, that guided that choice.</p>
<p>One thing women of that era had, however, was the ability to chat with each other, on Mondays, over the &#8220;clothes lines,&#8221; or while lugging yet another pail of water into the house.  That stopped when we could do laundry &#8216;any day&#8217; and in the privacy of our own homes.</p>
<p>Still, it wouldn&#8217;t be the first appliance I&#8217;d part with.</p>
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		<title>By: judith</title>
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		<dc:creator>judith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Dec 2006 18:45:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The Zeer pot idea does look good - thanks. I reckon it works by the evaporation that takes place through the porous clay of the outer pot. So presumably it would work with, say, an outer (large) clay flower pot and (any?) inner pot with an insulated lid. Placing it in a shady but breezy place should make it more effective. Have put it on my list of things to try this summer. Thanks for the link.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Zeer pot idea does look good &#8211; thanks. I reckon it works by the evaporation that takes place through the porous clay of the outer pot. So presumably it would work with, say, an outer (large) clay flower pot and (any?) inner pot with an insulated lid. Placing it in a shady but breezy place should make it more effective. Have put it on my list of things to try this summer. Thanks for the link.</p>
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		<title>By: Mina</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Dec 2006 05:02:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;It&#039;s not phase but faze: to disturb the composure of : DISCONCERT, DAUNT  that you mean I think....all according to Merriam-Webster online.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;&lt;/p&gt;

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Thanks for the Zeer pot I&#039;ll be looking into these.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not phase but faze: to disturb the composure of : DISCONCERT, DAUNT  that you mean I think&#8230;.all according to Merriam-Webster online.</p>
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<p>p&gt;<br />
Thanks for the Zeer pot I&#8217;ll be looking into these.</p>
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		<title>By: Vashti</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vashti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Dec 2006 11:48:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I used to think fridges were essential, then I read about &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.scienceinafrica.co.za/2004/september/refrigeration.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;the Zeer pot&lt;/a&gt;.  They&#039;re reputed to keep things cooler than submerging them in water.  I really want to try one of these out, because it seems like a really good solution to keeping milk, eggs and cheese cool.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used to think fridges were essential, then I read about <a href="http://www.scienceinafrica.co.za/2004/september/refrigeration.htm" rel="nofollow">the Zeer pot</a>.  They&#8217;re reputed to keep things cooler than submerging them in water.  I really want to try one of these out, because it seems like a really good solution to keeping milk, eggs and cheese cool.</p>
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		<title>By: stormsmith nomi</title>
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		<dc:creator>stormsmith nomi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Dec 2006 11:31:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I have lived in a caravan for nearly five years without a fridge, washing machine or bathroom. I manage to keep clean by using the showers at the leisure centre and using the laundrette. I only miss the fridge in the summer, when it is easier not to drink milk.I was suprised at how easily i adapted to this after living with these converiences all of my life,&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have lived in a caravan for nearly five years without a fridge, washing machine or bathroom. I manage to keep clean by using the showers at the leisure centre and using the laundrette. I only miss the fridge in the summer, when it is easier not to drink milk.I was suprised at how easily i adapted to this after living with these converiences all of my life,</p>
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		<title>By: adrienne</title>
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		<dc:creator>adrienne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Nov 2006 22:58:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Surely there are alternatives to fridges such as larders and buying goods daily. Since most of us don&#039;t have larders what is a good modern, probably outdoor equivalent for say the 9 months of the year that heat is not (yet) a problem?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Surely there are alternatives to fridges such as larders and buying goods daily. Since most of us don&#8217;t have larders what is a good modern, probably outdoor equivalent for say the 9 months of the year that heat is not (yet) a problem?</p>
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		<title>By: judith</title>
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		<dc:creator>judith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Nov 2006 16:02:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I&#039;d recommend a spin drier as a relatively low tech alternative to a washing machine. Simple and robust with no fancy circuitry to go wrong. It does use electricity but enables one to wash clothes with very litte water, by spinning them well before each successive rinse. Less rinsing water is needed than with washing by hand, because the spinning gets rid of much more of the soap than wringing does. You can catch the rinse water to use for the next batch, and so do two loads with not much more water than the one load. I recently bought one for £90 from a high street shop. And I&#039;m sure a mechanically minded person could rig up a bicycle operation for spinning it without electricity.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d recommend a spin drier as a relatively low tech alternative to a washing machine. Simple and robust with no fancy circuitry to go wrong. It does use electricity but enables one to wash clothes with very litte water, by spinning them well before each successive rinse. Less rinsing water is needed than with washing by hand, because the spinning gets rid of much more of the soap than wringing does. You can catch the rinse water to use for the next batch, and so do two loads with not much more water than the one load. I recently bought one for £90 from a high street shop. And I&#8217;m sure a mechanically minded person could rig up a bicycle operation for spinning it without electricity.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Atkins</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Atkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Nov 2006 06:23:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The first vapour based Refrigerator was invented in 1805.  Anyone else for 20th century inventions?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Is the washing machine really the best humanity could do in the most explosive century of growth we&#039;re ever likely to have?!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The first vapour based Refrigerator was invented in 1805.  Anyone else for 20th century inventions?</p>
<p>Is the washing machine really the best humanity could do in the most explosive century of growth we&#8217;re ever likely to have?!</p>
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		<title>By: Bev</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bev</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Nov 2006 06:12:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;No, don&#039;t agree Rob, I could go without my washing machine but not my refrigerator. Think of all the problems in keeping food from going off if we didn&#039;t have them.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Admittedly you were probably biased by the piles of puked-on clothes, but that&#039;s not a common scenario (at least for your sake, I hope not). Keeping food from going off is a common scenario, everyday in fact.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;My vote goes to the frig.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, don&#8217;t agree Rob, I could go without my washing machine but not my refrigerator. Think of all the problems in keeping food from going off if we didn&#8217;t have them.</p>
<p>Admittedly you were probably biased by the piles of puked-on clothes, but that&#8217;s not a common scenario (at least for your sake, I hope not). Keeping food from going off is a common scenario, everyday in fact.</p>
<p>My vote goes to the frig.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Atkins</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Atkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Nov 2006 12:22:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I forgot to mention &#039;antibiotics&#039; - very important, but perhaps more of a &#039;discovery&#039; than an invention...&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I forgot to mention &#8216;antibiotics&#8217; &#8211; very important, but perhaps more of a &#8216;discovery&#8217; than an invention&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Atkins</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Atkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Nov 2006 12:06:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Sorry to hear about the puking Rob!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;That&#039;s quite a statement you made - &lt;b&gt;&quot;perhaps the single most important invention of the 20th century&quot;!&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The &#039;lover of a good challenge&#039; in me instantly set out to find something more important... but I&#039;m struggling!  Of course it does depend on one&#039;s outlook and is highly subjective... My criteria would be &#039;inventions that free humans from daily drudgery without adverse impacts on sustainability&#039;.  Hence, whilst &#039;nuclear weapons&#039; are obviously very important - they&#039;re not very useful. &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_invention#20th_century&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;This list from Wikipedia&lt;/a&gt; is a good starting point.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Some people would argue that things like the Haber process (for making Nitrogen fertilisers) are very important - but in my view, anything that leads to increased population should be discounted!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I was tempted to say &#039;LSD&#039; but that would be silly! As would the &#039;bazooka&#039; or the &#039;leaf blower&#039;...&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;As a computer type it&#039;s interesting how highly rated the various IT related inventions are in many lists.  But in the big scheme of things they fall short for me. As IT doesn&#039;t really remove drudgery and toil.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I did wonder about &#039;Permaculture&#039; - but it&#039;s not really an invention in the sense discussed.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;So perhaps you&#039;re right - I hereby cast my vote for most important invention (as loosely defined above) of the 20th century as &#039;Washing Machine&#039; too - unless someone can convince me otherwise!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry to hear about the puking Rob!</p>
<p>That&#8217;s quite a statement you made &#8211; <b>&#8220;perhaps the single most important invention of the 20th century&#8221;!</b></p>
<p>The &#8216;lover of a good challenge&#8217; in me instantly set out to find something more important&#8230; but I&#8217;m struggling!  Of course it does depend on one&#8217;s outlook and is highly subjective&#8230; My criteria would be &#8216;inventions that free humans from daily drudgery without adverse impacts on sustainability&#8217;.  Hence, whilst &#8216;nuclear weapons&#8217; are obviously very important &#8211; they&#8217;re not very useful. <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_invention#20th_century" rel="nofollow">This list from Wikipedia</a> is a good starting point.</p>
<p>Some people would argue that things like the Haber process (for making Nitrogen fertilisers) are very important &#8211; but in my view, anything that leads to increased population should be discounted!</p>
<p>I was tempted to say &#8216;LSD&#8217; but that would be silly! As would the &#8216;bazooka&#8217; or the &#8216;leaf blower&#8217;&#8230;</p>
<p>As a computer type it&#8217;s interesting how highly rated the various IT related inventions are in many lists.  But in the big scheme of things they fall short for me. As IT doesn&#8217;t really remove drudgery and toil.</p>
<p>I did wonder about &#8216;Permaculture&#8217; &#8211; but it&#8217;s not really an invention in the sense discussed.</p>
<p>So perhaps you&#8217;re right &#8211; I hereby cast my vote for most important invention (as loosely defined above) of the 20th century as &#8216;Washing Machine&#8217; too &#8211; unless someone can convince me otherwise!</p>
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