Comments on: The Importance of Honouring our Elders… http://transitionculture.org/2006/10/31/the-importance-of-honouring-our-elders/ An Evolving Exploration into the Head, Heart and Hands of Energy Descent Fri, 10 Sep 2010 16:42:28 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Marie http://transitionculture.org/2006/10/31/the-importance-of-honouring-our-elders/comment-page-1/#comment-4048 Marie Mon, 06 Nov 2006 14:06:07 +0000 http://www.transitionculture.org/?p=514#comment-4048 <p>Hi Rob</p> <p>Can't forget urban homesteader/pioneer Jules Dervaes of Path to Freedom www.pathtofreedom.com who is forging urban permaculture pathways in the city</p> Hi Rob

Can’t forget urban homesteader/pioneer
Jules Dervaes of Path to Freedom
http://www.pathtofreedom.com
who is forging urban permaculture pathways in the city

]]> By: adrienne http://transitionculture.org/2006/10/31/the-importance-of-honouring-our-elders/comment-page-1/#comment-3952 adrienne Sat, 04 Nov 2006 01:14:49 +0000 http://www.transitionculture.org/?p=514#comment-3952 <p>How about the original elders, the aboriginal and native original people who are witnessing the destruction of their ways and their planet and are still keeping up their path with more or less integrity. The Anishinabe people of the Great Lakes of the USA for example.</p> How about the original elders, the aboriginal and native original people who are witnessing the destruction of their ways and their planet and are still keeping up their path with more or less integrity. The Anishinabe people of the Great Lakes of the USA for example.

]]> By: Mary Kelly http://transitionculture.org/2006/10/31/the-importance-of-honouring-our-elders/comment-page-1/#comment-3947 Mary Kelly Fri, 03 Nov 2006 23:52:31 +0000 http://www.transitionculture.org/?p=514#comment-3947 <p>thanks Rob, for mentioning me, and encouraging us to recall people who inspire(d) us. All Irish Rebels, past and present give me courage. All who resist, worldwide, who dont have the luxury of saying I can't be bothered. Young children and elders. People who keep failing but keep trying.</p> thanks Rob, for mentioning me, and encouraging us to recall people who inspire(d) us.
All Irish Rebels, past and present give me courage.
All who resist, worldwide, who dont have the luxury of saying I can’t be bothered.
Young children and elders.
People who keep failing but keep trying.

]]> By: nora http://transitionculture.org/2006/10/31/the-importance-of-honouring-our-elders/comment-page-1/#comment-3896 nora Thu, 02 Nov 2006 00:18:14 +0000 http://www.transitionculture.org/?p=514#comment-3896 <p>Nice article Rob, I've been really inspired recently by the people of Rossport (Co. Mayo) and everyone who is supporting them in their campaign against Shell - they are a great example of non-violent resistance and community spirit. http://www.corribsos.com/</p> Nice article Rob, I’ve been really inspired recently by the people of Rossport (Co. Mayo) and everyone who is supporting them in their campaign against Shell – they are a great example of non-violent resistance and community spirit.
http://www.corribsos.com/

]]> By: Jim http://transitionculture.org/2006/10/31/the-importance-of-honouring-our-elders/comment-page-1/#comment-3855 Jim Wed, 01 Nov 2006 05:19:03 +0000 http://www.transitionculture.org/?p=514#comment-3855 <p>I was thinking today what a debt I owed to the late Bill Moyer (not the US media person), who developed non-violence training and wrote "De-developing the US with non-violence" back in 1977 or so. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Moyer</p> I was thinking today what a debt I owed to the late Bill Moyer (not the US media person), who developed non-violence training and wrote “De-developing the US with non-violence” back in 1977 or so.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Moyer

]]> By: Sherry http://transitionculture.org/2006/10/31/the-importance-of-honouring-our-elders/comment-page-1/#comment-3811 Sherry Tue, 31 Oct 2006 12:01:32 +0000 http://www.transitionculture.org/?p=514#comment-3811 <p>Whoops that should be Donella Meadows - not Donna!</p> Whoops that should be Donella Meadows – not Donna!

]]> By: Sherry http://transitionculture.org/2006/10/31/the-importance-of-honouring-our-elders/comment-page-1/#comment-3810 Sherry Tue, 31 Oct 2006 12:00:13 +0000 http://www.transitionculture.org/?p=514#comment-3810 <p>Can I put in a vote for Donna Meadows (RIP) - besides her involvement in writing Limits to Growth I found a lot of her other writings inspiring.</p> Can I put in a vote for Donna Meadows (RIP) – besides her involvement in writing Limits to Growth I found a lot of her other writings inspiring.

]]> By: Keith http://transitionculture.org/2006/10/31/the-importance-of-honouring-our-elders/comment-page-1/#comment-3806 Keith Tue, 31 Oct 2006 09:12:13 +0000 http://www.transitionculture.org/?p=514#comment-3806 <p>and Jaki Liebzeit? Gets a mention on the MSc dissertation... shows we CAN succeed in rhythming a new shape to the future</p> and Jaki Liebzeit? Gets a mention on the MSc dissertation… shows we CAN succeed in rhythming a new shape to the future

]]> By: James Taylor http://transitionculture.org/2006/10/31/the-importance-of-honouring-our-elders/comment-page-1/#comment-3805 James Taylor Tue, 31 Oct 2006 09:10:03 +0000 http://www.transitionculture.org/?p=514#comment-3805 <p>This really struck a chord with me, as I'd been pondering much the same things recently. I read David Suzuki's "goodbye" and pondered on it a bit:(http://yourmindfire.blogspot.com/2006/10/suzuki-speaks.html)</p> <p>and then connected it up with some thoughts that I had a while back (http://yourmindfire.blogspot.com/2006/06/love-thats-love-not-fade-away.html )about "elders".</p> <p>There's a concept in Jungian/archetypal psychology of 'Senex' - the old man - which can be understood positively as "wise old man" of "wizard". [thanks to Wikipedia for a simple explanation for me to borrow}.</p> <p>And I really felt this senex power as I read some late/last works by a number of authors over the last couple of years: Gary Snyders's 'Danger on Peaks'; William S Burrough's 'Last Words'; Hunter S Thompson's 'Kingdom of Fear'; Kurt Vonnegut's 'A Man Without a Country'; Ram Dass's 'Still Here'; James Hillman's 'A Terrible Love of War'.</p> <p>I'm aware that a lot of that stuff is coming from American '60s counter-cultural figures - and I guess for me reading these old man works by them was a re-engagement with these figures whose 'prime era' works I'd engaged with as a teenager (in the 1980s) - but I've sensed this senex energy in other figures too - Suzuki, James Lovelock, David Attenborough, Bob Dylan, JG Ballard, Leonard Cohen...</p> <p>I'm also aware that this senex list, has no wise old women in it - Kathleen Raine comes to mind in passing as I write.</p> <p>God, this isn't even a beginning to me thinking about this properly either - I'm not even near my books and records to scan for inspiration - but I felt compelled to respond in the moment, so here's some spilled out thoughts.</p> This really struck a chord with me, as I’d been pondering much the same things recently. I read David Suzuki’s “goodbye” and pondered on it a bit:(http://yourmindfire.blogspot.com/2006/10/suzuki-speaks.html)

and then connected it up with some thoughts that I had a while back (http://yourmindfire.blogspot.com/2006/06/love-thats-love-not-fade-away.html )about “elders”.

There’s a concept in Jungian/archetypal psychology of ‘Senex’ – the old man – which can be understood positively as “wise old man” of “wizard”. [thanks to Wikipedia for a simple explanation for me to borrow}.

And I really felt this senex power as I read some late/last works by a number of authors over the last couple of years: Gary Snyders’s ‘Danger on Peaks’; William S Burrough’s ‘Last Words’; Hunter S Thompson’s ‘Kingdom of Fear’; Kurt Vonnegut’s ‘A Man Without a Country’; Ram Dass’s ‘Still Here’; James Hillman’s ‘A Terrible Love of War’.

I’m aware that a lot of that stuff is coming from American ’60s counter-cultural figures – and I guess for me reading these old man works by them was a re-engagement with these figures whose ‘prime era’ works I’d engaged with as a teenager (in the 1980s) – but I’ve sensed this senex energy in other figures too – Suzuki, James Lovelock, David Attenborough, Bob Dylan, JG Ballard, Leonard Cohen…

I’m also aware that this senex list, has no wise old women in it – Kathleen Raine comes to mind in passing as I write.

God, this isn’t even a beginning to me thinking about this properly either – I’m not even near my books and records to scan for inspiration – but I felt compelled to respond in the moment, so here’s some spilled out thoughts.

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