Comments on: Feeding ourselves or driving our cars? – The Cautionary Tale of the Humble (F)Artichoke. http://transitionculture.org/2005/12/12/feeding-ourselves-or-driving-our-cars-the-cautionary-tale-of-the-humble-artichoke/ An Evolving Exploration into the Head, Heart and Hands of Energy Descent Mon, 21 May 2012 18:40:17 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Vic Verghese http://transitionculture.org/2005/12/12/feeding-ourselves-or-driving-our-cars-the-cautionary-tale-of-the-humble-artichoke/comment-page-1/#comment-407 Vic Verghese Sat, 29 Apr 2006 15:16:51 +0000 http://transitionculture.org/?p=150#comment-407 As you said, we ultimately have to make a choice, whether we wish to grow acres and acres of plants for biodiesel, or is there some other way out? I think there are related possibilities - one such is using oil from algae as biodiesel. Though research is in a nascent stage, this looks promising, because yields from algae are much higher for similar acreage. Of course, at this stage it is not clear if biodiesel from algae will be a net energy gain, but at least there is something to look fwd to A site that you might be interested in having a look at is <a HREF="http://www.castoroil.in/reference/plant_oils/uses/fuel/bio_fuels.html" rel="nofollow">The Biodiesel Encyclopedia</a> Vic, <a HREF="http://www.ebpo.in" rel="nofollow">BPO</a> As you said, we ultimately have to make a choice, whether we wish to grow acres and acres of plants for biodiesel, or is there some other way out?

I think there are related possibilities – one such is using oil from algae as biodiesel. Though research is in a nascent stage, this looks promising, because yields from algae are much higher for similar acreage. Of course, at this stage it is not clear if biodiesel from algae will be a net energy gain, but at least there is something to look fwd to

A site that you might be interested in having a look at is The Biodiesel Encyclopedia

Vic, BPO

]]> By: adam f http://transitionculture.org/2005/12/12/feeding-ourselves-or-driving-our-cars-the-cautionary-tale-of-the-humble-artichoke/comment-page-1/#comment-38 adam f Tue, 13 Dec 2005 14:37:28 +0000 http://transitionculture.org/?p=150#comment-38 hi rob, putting the wider concerns aside for a minute, i've put jerusalum artichokes into kimchis and other ferments and not noticed too ill a wind. they retain a nice crunch too. it's possible the fermentation breaks down the difficult to digest carbs. when my flatmates worry that my vege ferments smell like fart I try to explain them that that's the fart leaving the food. not an easy sell, but may well be true. i also read that levulose/fructose is digested better in presence of glucose - so a fruity kimchi might be even better, or just follow it with some honey, bananas or cherries or other high glucose fruits :) hi rob,

putting the wider concerns aside for a minute, i’ve put jerusalum artichokes into kimchis and other ferments and not noticed too ill a wind. they retain a nice crunch too. it’s possible the fermentation breaks down the difficult to digest carbs.

when my flatmates worry that my vege ferments smell like fart I try to explain them that that’s the fart leaving the food. not an easy sell, but may well be true.

i also read that levulose/fructose is digested better in presence of glucose – so a fruity kimchi might be even better, or just follow it with some honey, bananas or cherries or other high glucose fruits :)

]]> By: Tom Atkins http://transitionculture.org/2005/12/12/feeding-ourselves-or-driving-our-cars-the-cautionary-tale-of-the-humble-artichoke/comment-page-1/#comment-35 Tom Atkins Mon, 12 Dec 2005 13:04:45 +0000 http://transitionculture.org/?p=150#comment-35 With a bit of genetic engineering we shouldn't have any problem feeding everyone: <img src='/wp-content/uploads/hmmveg.jpg' alt='Unusual Aubergines' /> But it looks like we'll need cars to move the food around though! With a bit of genetic engineering we shouldn’t have any problem feeding everyone:

Unusual Aubergines

But it looks like we’ll need cars to move the food around though!

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